Permaculture is a gestalt ... a study of the whole. Not just how to produce more and better food, but how human life on the planet affects and is affected by the surrounding environment.
Bill Kearns
Greg Harvey
Columbia, Missouri
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
Those who hammer their swords into plows will plow for those who don't!
Those who hammer their swords into plows will plow for those who don't!
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Anna Demb wrote:I've bought them online for under $4 each, 23-30watt, no subsidy that I could see. They have lasted us years now, through several moves. And we're not very careful about how often we turn them on and off.
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
Please address directed questions directly in a PM
Please address directed questions directly in a PM
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
Kull Conquered wrote:The thing that strikes me about all of this is not how much electricity is used by light bulbs so much as the other factors that lead us to be so concerned with power consumption; and the forcing of us into "planned obsolescence".
The things that use the most energy in our households is certainly not light bulbs. Paul even stated half of our enormous heating bills result in around half the consumption. I am not a proponent of burning wood in the city, but pellets and rocket mass heaters are vastly different - radiant floor heating, etc. People foolishly (or in desperation) still use mini-heaters and baseboard heaters. Those things are like using 38-50 40watt bulbs at a time. Refrigerator compressors and anything of that nature use a lot. I try to fill my extra jars with water and put them in my fridge to reduce compressor use.
This is really about, to me, how offensive of a fucking fascists golliwog this whole situation happens to be.
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
Rebecca Brown wrote:We've gone back to incandescents until we can afford to switch over to LEDs.
raindog Hatfield wrote:Where did you get those LEDs?
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