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Does anyone have any experience with the flat land layouts described in Mike Oehler's book? My husband and I just purchased some mostly flat land in northern Alabama to build our homestead! We really love the underground/earth bermed/wofati idea, but sadly there isn't much of a slope to the land. There are some swales throughout, but nothing I would call a hill. I know we can just do some kind of berming, but I love the underground house idea so much. Obviously drainage is our main concern here, as well as the home blending in with the surrounding land for being incognito in a shtf scenario :D Thanks!
 
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Cristina Marie wrote:Does anyone have any experience with the flat land layouts described in Mike Oehler's book? My husband and I just purchased some mostly flat land in northern Alabama to build our homestead! We really love the underground/earth bermed/wofati idea, but sadly there isn't much of a slope to the land. There are some swales throughout, but nothing I would call a hill. I know we can just do some kind of berming, but I love the underground house idea so much. Obviously drainage is our main concern here, as well as the home blending in with the surrounding land for being incognito in a shtf scenario :D Thanks!



My understanding was, a WOFATI by design was intended to be on flattish ground.

My wife and I are planning to build one on fairly flat ground, but it is at the top of a big hill. At that location it has incredible views, but also is subjected to high winds, which is why we literally want to hunker down. I do not see any other form of housing that will survive, and allow us to survive, up there.
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My understanding is that WOFATIs are designed for wooded sloped land.  Wooded for the raw materials, sloped to save digging/sourcing/moving dirt (I believe).  Maybe you could dig a big pond nearby...
 
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Mike Jay wrote:My understanding is that WOFATIs are designed for wooded sloped land.  Wooded for the raw materials, sloped to save digging/sourcing/moving dirt (I believe).  Maybe you could dig a big pond nearby...



Or just buy it. Even gravel is cheap; $150 for 14 cubic yards, or a dump truck with 2 sets of tires in the back. If you buy "fill" or sand, the cost would be even cheaper.
 
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