Anne Miller wrote:I feel you have some good ideas and a nice opportunity.
Having a conversation is a great way to find out how the others feel.
Maybe they will want to keep the land and not sell it off, then you could decide what is the best way to proceed.
In any event, I would work something out on paper so that everyone is in agreement and signs the agreement.
Using it as a learning lab is also a great idea.
Nancy Reading wrote:If the land classification changes to urban, does that mean the land has to be built on, or just that it can be buiklt on more easily and thus it's value increases?
I'm also not quite sure whether the protected tree grove is on your father's land or the comunidad. The restrictions will presumably reduce the value of this part of the land if it does change to urban classification.
A lot depends on your Uncles' and father's financial situation and personal values. At the moment, they are paying money out for a property they have no real interest in other than for family memories, but can't get anything out of it anyway unless they want to work the land like you. I have seen the pictures on your other thread, and it looks like you have made a big difference already in the land you are using, maybe the uncles will be happy that your Grandma's land will be productive again, or maybe they will just want to cash in. You will not know until you have that conversation, and as Anne says put it in writing. If they feel it is not fair for you to have the land, maybe there would be a way to set up a trust in memory of your Grandmother, which you could manage on everyone's behalf. This is just a thought which might involve getting legal advice, but could also build in protection for the land in the future.
Leigh Tate wrote:Antonio, it's an interesting problem and I think the way you are approaching it is spot on.
You say that the property is currently zoned rural but the town wants it to become urbanizable. Is that correct? You also mention a tourism mindset of area politicians. It would seem then, that whatever you do ought to be seen as an asset to the area. You are thinking permaculture, so perhaps if you can start promoting permaculture as an environmentally sound and popular green way to garden and landscape, you could hopefully bring them in line with your thinking. Maybe workshops? Tours of your property? A little farmers market? A permaculture gardening shop? Classes on practical permaculture? Feature speakers? A permaculture newsletter? Collaborate with someone nearby who wants to do a bed and breakfast type inn? And/or a zero-waste shop? I would think those kinds of things would elevate your purposes to something even non-agricultural business mindset folks could appreciate. And maybe even want to promote.
John C Daley wrote:You have described a situation that exists in many places.
In Australia we have a law which enables a 'family trust' to own the land, not individuals.
As people come and go the land stays and the income, if any is shared.
You may have a similar law in Spain. Its popular with big farmers and politicians to avoid tax!!
There is another point I have observed often and has not been mentioned.
The attitude of family members partners. They have no connection with the land and its history, but if it looks as if it could turn into a 'pot of gold', interest will appear.
I would suggest you plan things with your family, such that if you do improve the property a partner cannot force it to be sold, for their self interest.
I have seen it before unfortunately.