This is all feeling a bit surreal, because in another thread, it seemed one of the most important values to people was the "freedom to disagree." And now in this thread, the disagreeable people are the bad guys!
Diana Leafe Christian wrote:
First, the folks at Earthaven who wanted to dig a well in their neighborhood did not, as Paul's comment suggests, also insist that the permaculture teacher agree with or also use their kind of irrigation or agricultural systems. They were fine for her to employ her preferred methods on her homesite and in her neighborhood. This was not a conflict between two parties who each had the view, "Do it my way; the right way!" Rather, it was a conflict between a party who said, "Do it my way, the right way, and I'll block proposals that will allow you to do it your way," and those who said, "Let's each do it the way we prefer and see how it turns out, share the information, and all learn from all these agricultural experiments."
Studies have shown that the percentage of Americans who worry about the environment “a great deal” or “a fair amount” has increased from 62% to 77% between 2004 and 2006.
Consumers born before 1950 are the least green.
Getting bogged down in whether global climate upheaval is 15% or 85% caused by human activity is a dangerous red herring. Whether we're more on the 15% end or the 85% end, most of us concerned about having healthy food, clean water, breathable air, and comfortable places to live should be able to agree that we have to stop emitting pollutants, stop throwing gases into the atmosphere that may be making things worse, stop razing our forests, etc.
I like these forums to be more about how to do good things than about how to protest against bad things. There are heaps of sites all over the internet all about people being angry about how stuff sucks. My idea of permaculture has more to do with nurturing.
I was deeply touched by what Bertram Russel said ( he was a famous philosopher of the last century): "It is embarrassing to admit that I think the best thing we can do is just be a little nicer to each other". (That´s why I appreciate this forum!)
My daughter lives in a community that decided to eat only raw food. This is in Hawaii. Recently a fellow took his sledgehammer to the cookstove. People looked on in shock. It was my daughter that asked him if he noticed that there were children watching him and consider how the violence may affect them. Also, stoves can be used to heat water, dry food, etc.
"The tribe has spoken...drop your sledgehammer and leave the tribal council area immediately."
Some people are just nuts.
Scott Reil wrote:
What right do Americans have to use 25% of the world's resources? And why does everyone want to be like us?