Wood Burning Stoves 2.0 Kickstarter

Hi Paul, I am a novice on all of this, I've just "arrived" at this world called Permaculture.

I also just have found this opportunity you are bringing to us here, but I still have some questions about the 4 DVDs, they are:

1. Are the video/audio quality of the streaming version videos the same or as good as the DVDs version?

2. Is it possible to download to my PC these videos from the streaming version from YouTube?
(Sorry, I still don't have an YouTube account and don't know how does this will work, but I usually copy some free YouTube videos with no problem).

3. If I decide to buy the 4 DVDs, is it possible to you to declare them at a lower value on the Customs Declaration over the package?
I ask about this issue because I live in Brazil, and here the Customs usually charge us with so many taxes and fees that these DVDs will probably cost twice the value for me, before I can get them.

Thanks a lot and congratulations for your work!
Greetings from southern Brazil,
João

dirk leas wrote:

paul wheaton wrote:

dirk leas wrote:Any updating on the streaming version?

TIA,
D

I think I will be connecting people to the streaming version tomorrow.

Thanks -- I received my notification email with the four Youtube links. Three worked as expected, but I'm unable to view "Hot Rocket". I get streaming error with a try later prompt. Is anyone else seeing the same error on this vid?

TIA,
Dirk

Are you still getting that problem? (I guess I am hoping for the age old "do nothing and maybe the problem will fix itself")

Joao Weiss wrote:
1. Are the video/audio quality of the streaming version videos the same or as good as the DVDs version?

My impression is that the streaming quality is higher.

2. Is it possible to download to my PC these videos from the streaming version from YouTube?
(Sorry, I still don't have an YouTube account and don't know how does this will work, but I usually copy some free YouTube videos with no problem).

It is streaming. Not downloading.

3. If I decide to buy the 4 DVDs, is it possible to you to declare them at a lower value on the Customs Declaration over the package?
I ask about this issue because I live in Brazil, and here the Customs usually charge us with so many taxes and fees that these DVDs will probably cost twice the value for me, before I can get them.

I cannot. They are set up with a fulfillment service that manages everything. I have zero control over that part.

paul wheaton wrote:

dirk leas wrote:

paul wheaton wrote:

dirk leas wrote:Any updating on the streaming version?

TIA,
D

I think I will be connecting people to the streaming version tomorrow.

Thanks -- I received my notification email with the four Youtube links. Three worked as expected, but I'm unable to view "Hot Rocket". I get streaming error with a try later prompt. Is anyone else seeing the same error on this vid?

TIA,
Dirk

Are you still getting that problem? (I guess I am hoping for the age old "do nothing and maybe the problem will fix itself")

I'm still unable to view Hot Rocket.

paul wheaton wrote:

Joao Weiss wrote:
2. Is it possible to download to my PC these videos from the streaming version from YouTube?
(Sorry, I still don't have an YouTube account and don't know how does this will work, but I usually copy some free YouTube videos with no problem).

It is streaming. Not downloading.

- Okay, but as streaming, can I watch the videos as many times as needed to understand or just one time?

- If there are no difference between the DVDs' video content and the Streaming version, I probably will choose/acquire this second option. Or are there some "EXTRAs" in the DVDs?

dirk leas wrote:
I'm still unable to view Hot Rocket.

I checked. It showed your account had access. So I removed your access and added it again. Is it working now?

Joao Weiss wrote:
- Okay, but as streaming, can I watch the videos as many times as needed to understand or just one time?

Over and over. For years.

- If there are no difference between the DVDs' video content and the Streaming version, I probably will choose/acquire this second option. Or are there some "EXTRAs" in the DVDs?

There are no extras. The content is the same.

Now would be a great time to hear feedback on the final product.

paul wheaton wrote:

dirk leas wrote:
I'm still unable to view Hot Rocket.

I checked. It showed your account had access. So I removed your access and added it again. Is it working now?

Still a nogo. I've tried the obvious stuff (e.g. different browsers all current release, cleared cache, even tried viewing on mobile devices). I can scrub using the Youtube controls and see the scrubbing thumbnails if I turn off autoplay and keep it from erroring out, but it won't play. The state is also saved at my account level so testing on alternate devices initializes with previous failed state. I googled in an attempt to clear this video "session" state following me around and am not seeing anything helpful.

Dirk,

Just to be clear: you can see the other three videos just fine, right? It is only hot rocket that is giving your problems, right?

paul wheaton wrote:Dirk,

Just to be clear: you can see the other three videos just fine, right? It is only hot rocket that is giving your problems, right?

I see your account info in the first video and in "Hot Rocket". Identical in both.

Can you create a brand new youtube account and we can try that? It seems that youtube has a bug and creating a new youtube account appears to fix the bug.

paul wheaton wrote:

paul wheaton wrote:Dirk,

Just to be clear: you can see the other three videos just fine, right? It is only hot rocket that is giving your problems, right?

I see your account info in the first video and in "Hot Rocket". Identical in both.

Can you create a brand new youtube account and we can try that? It seems that youtube has a bug and creating a new youtube account appears to fix the bug.

I PM'd you the new YT account.

TIA,
D

Maybe in a few months I will look at my ocean of PMs. Maybe email would be good?

For those of you that have purchased the 4-dvd set after the kickstarter, please comment here when you receive it and tell us what the quality is like.

paul wheaton wrote:The people that paid for the kickstarter got the 4 dvd set for $100 including shipping. Unless they were outside the US and then it was $120. So the 4-dvd set it now set up for sale where you have to pay your own shipping. And so far it seems like shipping is super slow unless you part with the bigger money.

I'm also having a hard time understanding some of the stuff here, so right now this is experimental. I would like to get one or more people to buy the DVD set through this link and report back how it went. Click here.


In other news, later today I will be setting folks up with the streaming option. That was sold in the kickstarter for $90. If folks send me $99 via paypal (paul at richsoil.com) and provide me with your youtube ID (which is the same as your gmail address for a lot of folks) then I will test that path too.

Paul - I used the "little" link and the process went smoothly.
Will let you know when I get the DVD's.
kws

For those of you that are buying the streaming option:

A: it seems that 2 out of 3 have no problem
B: it seems that out of those that have problems, we can come up with a fix for most.
C: don't buy the streaming option until we get a 100% solution

We're trying to figure things out in this thread: https://permies.com/t/27045

So now i am logged in with my OWN account
What do folks think?

I just deleted a bunch of snotty comments from youtube. In response to a portion of those comments I want to make it clear to folks thinking of purchasing this stuff the exact thing that is in the video, and I think has been mentioned many times in this thread: I am not a videographer. In fact, Bart has told me I don't get to hold the camera anymore for any of the future DVD projects. I did not put a microphone on ernie or erica. I just did the point-the-camera thing which did happen to have a fancy directional mic on it. And you can hear people at the workshop talking while the instructor is talking.

The bottom line is that we took a fancy-pants camera, took video of workshop because people asked for it. And it turns out that more people wanted it than we thought.

When we had so many sales of the video, we tried to add a little to it to bump up the value a bit and earn the extra income. Bart begged us to use better equipment and now I understand why.

If your expectation is anything above "a crappy video of a workshop" then you will probably be disappointed.

On the bright side, I think Bart did an amazing job fixing my errors. Plus he added in some excellent 3-D animations showing how a lot of this stuff works.

With a real videographer and the idea that a proper DVD would be made, the workshop attendees would take a backseat to the camera. And the presenters would wear a mic and be asked to say everything twice. And there would be "B-roll" and more than one microphone "just in case".

I was allowed to video provided that I stayed the hell out of the way.

I ordered from the link, was short and sweet. Worked well. I think.

So I moved the streaming stuff from youtube to vimeo. So far I have heard back from two people that it worked flawlessly the first try. If anybody else wants to send $99 via paypal to paul at richsoil.com along with a note about your user account number at vimeo, I'll get you connected with streaming.

We are currently seeing 100% success rate at vimeo. We have about a dozen people set up there now. It sounds rock solid.

I think where the mission was to mash a workshop into DVD format, with the first thought being that it would be for about 20 people - I think what we've managed to come up with is freaky excellent. Or maybe that is just by massive arrogance speaking. So I would very much like to hear from folks what they think of the videos.

Next up: I would have thought that we would have heard from heaps of people about having received the physical DVDs. Still nothing? Did you get a tracker? I know that I got my DVDs a while ago. And I know that jocelyn got a notice from the DVD people that hers were getting shipped aug 6! I checked in with Bart and it sounds like there was a lot of wonky stuff about paying for stuff from canada that took a long time to sort out. I guess next time we'll be better prepared for that sort of wonkiness.

Still waiting for mine. But I will let you know. Where do you have the videos posted for those that got both DVDs and streaming?

I don't remember offering both DVDs and streaming. I thought we just offered one or the other.

paul wheaton wrote:We have six days left and we have added two more stretch goals for if we hit $100,000 [...] #2: everybody that got the four DVD set will also get the streaming stuff for free.

Got close to having that be the case though.

Sorry, my mistake. I will just have to wait for my DVDs to arrive.

-CK

I still have not received my 4 DVDs from the kickstarter. Should I just hold tight and not be so anxious?

I think everybody should have received an email by now from the shipper. Did you?

paul wheaton wrote:I think everybody should have received an email by now from the shipper. Did you?

I don't think I did. I searched my email history, but all I found were responses from the kickstarter, but nothing from the shipper. I filled out the survey when it was sent, too... hrm.

Stephen Bublitz wrote:

paul wheaton wrote:I think everybody should have received an email by now from the shipper. Did you?

I don't think I did. I searched my email history, but all I found were responses from the kickstarter, but nothing from the shipper. I filled out the survey when it was sent, too... hrm.

Same here, no email and no DVDs. I also filled out the survey. Im not in a hurry, just haven't seen others posting they got DVDs. It seems PW might have received expedited shipping. Lol.

ditto above. No communications since the survey either.

I got my DVDs today!!

I got an alert that mine would be shipped on Aug 6th and the arrived in the mail today. I am sure my super fast delivery is due to the fact the company that made the DVDs is only a couple hours away from my farm.

Hopefully mine will get here this week. I got an email a few days ago.

I just got the verification email that it will be shipped out in 24 hours. I should have it between 15 and 30 days from now. Nobody post any spoilers, now!

-CK

got the confirmation email this morning.

I also got the confirmation email last night.

I recieved my confirmation last night also. Says I should recieve it in 6 business days. I can't wait to watch them all. I might even call in a sick day when I get them. Rocket mass heater marathon here I come!

Are orders still being taken, even though the kickstarter is over? I have to say, it wasn't really on my radar when I joined this site.

If orders ARE still being taken, is there a running tally? I mean in terms of achieving the stretch goals. It seems a shame to shut it down being so close, just because the kickstarter event has ended.

I seem to recall Paul saying that the DVDs would only be available to kickstarter contributors.

Any insight here?

Chad Sentman wrote:Are orders still being taken, even though the kickstarter is over? I have to say, it wasn't really on my radar when I joined this site.

If orders ARE still being taken, is there a running tally? I mean in terms of achieving the stretch goals. It seems a shame to shut it down being so close, just because the kickstarter event has ended.

I seem to recall Paul saying that the DVDs would only be available to kickstarter contributors.

Any insight here?

To puchase the 4-DVD set click here

To get the 4-DVD set as streaming, send me $99 via paypal: paul at richsoil.com

Still awaiting my dvd!! I suck at waiting for stuff I WANT!!