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Mk Neal wrote:Add another dimension to your plan and think about the height of the plants you are growing. A spot that is shady at ground level may have adequate sun a few feet up, so that a taller plant or a climber may thrive. However, the tall plants will also cast shade on their neighbors.
Amy Gardener wrote:Hello Mike. After reading your post several times, it sounds like your question could also be framed as, “How can I get more light to my sun-loving plants?” Though you cannot move the houses around you, how about also considering ways to optimize the light that enters the garden?
As explained in this interview, white paint can reflect light back to the atmosphere to keep our planet cool: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/can-the-worlds-whitest-paint-save-the-world
In addition to cooling surfaces, the grow spectrum can be reflected back to your plants at oblique angles so that your garden can receive maximum reflected light (up to 98.1% if you get the optimum white coating noted above). The idea is to augment your planting strategy with white washed garden surfaces that will enable light to bounce around in your garden (ricochet off walls, stones, and other white features) so your plants will receive more light than they would when aligned with the direct sun light overhead.
This reflective approach is working here in the desert where the extreme heat from direct sunlight would kill most plants. The plants need light so the ricochet approach helps them receive the light that they need to thrive.
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Mike Lafay wrote:
Using height, I'm not completely sold about it. In this case, the shade is from houses, so unless I do rooftop gardening, it won't help much.
Weeds are just plants with enough surplus will to live to withstand normal levels of gardening!--Alexandra Petri
Jenny Wright wrote:I know you said you want to use seeds of what you already have but if you want to branch out, here's some ideas...
Have you thought about shade tolerant flowers and herbs in those spots? Especially perennials? Since it's shady, perennial herbs will grow slowly but since you would leave them there year after year, they can just keep growing. I've had success with rosemary, thyme and sage in partial shade.
Also planting shade tolerant flowers can draw pollinators to the rest of the garden to increase production, even if you aren't getting lots of food from the shady area. And if you plant leafy greens in the shade, let them go to flower. The bugs love their flowers.
Fruit bushes like gooseberries prefer a shadier spot. And perennial plants like hostas and fuschias love the shade and are edible.
In the hottest part of the summer, peas will enjoy the cooler shade and continue to grow and produce pods.
That's all I can think of for now but I'm sure there are lots more options out there.
Joylynn Hardesty wrote:Not all of these plants are on your list. Perhaps this info will be useful to others. I am USDA 7a.
Things that hated partial shade:
Landrace mochatta. Also a Butternut squash.
Okra
Sorghum
Amaranth
Cotton
Tomatoes
Corn, but corn doesn't like me in full sun either.
Some success with partial shade
Pole beans, blue lake
Cole crops in the heat of summer: ie turnips, kale, collards, etc
Mk Neal wrote:
Mike Lafay wrote:
Using height, I'm not completely sold about it. In this case, the shade is from houses, so unless I do rooftop gardening, it won't help much.
The shade cast by a building is not a block but a wedge, the angle of which varies based on position of the sun. So unless they are flush against the building, the plants do not need to be on the rooftop to be clear of the shade. But the shorter the plant, the further it will need to be from building to get adequate sun. So you could plan you beds that way.
Weeds are just plants with enough surplus will to live to withstand normal levels of gardening!--Alexandra Petri
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