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I have recently purchased my land and I'd like to move onto it sooner rather than later, as well as sell my current house sooner than later.  But it's going to be a little while until I have a home designed and built.  What do you feel my best options are for this?  I'd like the option to be under $30k with a good resale value, and must have the ability to have heat and air conditioning.  I also need enough space for my son and I to have somewhat separate quarters.  My first thought was to buy a used RV.  Someone else mentioned a yurt.  My only concern with that is resale and I will have to build a large deck for it to sit on.  What about a bathroom?  I've thought about getting a few containers as well.  I have a feeling there are other options out there so I thought I'd see what the community had to say.
 
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Unfortunately this is a bit of a contradiction.

Anything with a good resale value would need an endorsement for the energy efficiency and safety of the structure. These tiny homes are a good value but finding one for $30,000 is unlikely but not impossible.

Anything DIY will not really fit the description and therefore not have a good resale. However it could suit your immediate needs and serve as an "artist retreat" or something along those lines later...
 
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Future Art studio is really what I meant to call it, which could be assigned some value, and as long as you build a main house later, it would then be considered an accessory structure.
 
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How about buying or building a shed then insulating and adding AC and a wood stove. It could be a future shed or guest house

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For the bathroom I would probably just use a bucket style composting toilet until I built anything 'approved' by the people who think they have the power.

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Justin has suggested exactly what I was going to suggest.

Get one of the big box store sheds like Tuff Shed.

Then fix it up inside as you want.

This could be as simple as bunk beds, a camp stove, a sink that drains into a bucket, a bucket toilet, and a window AC.

When you build that dream home this shed would be used for storage or guest quarters.

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The military makes huge insulated and climate-controlled tents. They are probably relatively inefficient compared to insulating a tough shed but I am sure they have a pretty good re-sell value.

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Another shed-like idea for brainstorming: shipping container. Is your son old enough to help with the building?  It's raining here so I checked Craigslist in your area. Sure enough, someone's selling containers.
For some brainstorming pic's, check out  the 20' containers made by Tiny House Container
or Google "shipping container tiny house images".

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Build basic and then improve.
It works for many people trying to stretch things.
I would start with 1 room- sleeping basic kitchen and a toilet shower room which will grow to a small bathroom
Then add 3 more walls and build a bathroom in it etc.

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Is your land in an area where temporary or long term rental accommodation is an asset? Think travelers or hunters? Or will you have a need for space for relatives to visit, or a mother-in-law suite sort of building?

If the first options might be appropriate, thinking of the temporary home as future income generation might affect your decision.

The second options might simply save your sanity!

If not, I'd definitely be looking at some sort of tiny home on wheels.  Good luck whatever you try.

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In a lot of jurisdictions, a 10'x10' shed on skids falls under the radar of the powers that require permits.

If you had a 10x10 and insulated/finished it as a living area, and added two more (workshop and storage) facing a common area with a bit of a gazebo roof, I think you'd have a pretty workable setup.
 
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With a $30,000 max budget, I think the old garage with overhead apartment concept has worked well for a lot of people, as temporary housing with a permanent value also.
 
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One of our members made two living space idea that might give you some ideas:

Trailer Conversion:

https://permies.com/t/133368/Tiny-Bug-Grid-Boondocking-Camper

Tiny home:

https://permies.com/t/53706//Northern-Climate-Tiny-Home-Wheels

One of our members is doing a shipping container home:

https://permies.com/t/161748/house-build-total-newb

I hope these will give you or others some ideas.

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Maybe like this? It looks great if you ask me.

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Also your zoning is a big factor in what type of building to use because often with residential zoning, no accessory structures can be built before the main dwelling.

With agricultural zoning you can usually proceed with accessory structures at any time.
 
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