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Gerry Parent wrote:Hi Jeff,
Have you spoke to Matt Walker about your findings?
He is very helpful and provides a lot of very good feedback in a short time.
I know I would personally like to know his response if you both would be willing to share.
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jordan barton wrote:Hey jeff
Pictures would be great when you can get them. I am interested in your bench![]()
Some info which I believe most would find helpful.
Where do you roughly live?
How big is the space you are heating?
What is your burn time like? You say constantly. So you light up at 8am and than the stove goes until 10pm? If so I would say you need a bigger stove! Our fisher stove in the big house takes all day to heat the house. Than rinse and repeat the next day![]()
My walker stove heats up a 200SQft tiny house which is very well insulated. Right now I start the fire with a full firebox. this included paper/kindling and 2x2s run the stove with the primary air open for about 10 minutes. When I see the secondary burn start and the "cooktop" get in excess of 600*F I close the primary air. Than about 1 hour later I fill the box up and than call it good until the next evening. Again a small space. I also block the secondary air when I go to bed so air isn't circulating through the mass/bell overnight.
One thing I will say is that I would love to run the stove full blast. However all of the heat will be released from the cooktop with little going into the brick bell. And than my tiny house turns into a sauna! Nice but hard to sleep with.
My thread https://permies.com/t/tiny-house-masonry-heater
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― Richard Powers, The Overstory
thomas rubino wrote:Hi Jeff;
Bummer the tiny cook stove is not performing as well as you would like.
Are you using a glass cooktop? As Jordan mentioned a tremendous amount of heat will fill the room but your mass will get shortchanged.
You might try laying insulation (super wool) over the cooktop to send more heat into your bell and see if that improves things.
If you are still unhappy, then you can switch to a 6" extended-length batch box.
The vertical riser will start to draw quickly.
Your option is to use a barrel (Quick radiant heat) or build a brick bell to go with your brick bench.
The brick bell would take longer to heat but in return, it will hold that heat longer than a barrel.
The firebox on a 6" batch is quite a bit larger than the cook stove firebox.
Once warmed up you can expect 2-3 hrs of screaming hot fire and coals.
Depending on your house and climate you may burn several fires in a day but you will not need to be burning back-to-back fires all day.
How is your home designed?
What size is it?
“Trees know when we are close by. The chemistry of their roots and the perfumes of their leaves pump out change when we're near...when you feel good after a walk in the woods, it may be that certain species are bribing you”
― Richard Powers, The Overstory
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Fox James wrote:Hi Jeff, it is hard to see what your cook top is made from but I assume it is ceramic glass?
What sort of temperature is the cook top reaching?
To be fair, you have quite a large space to heat with a pretty small fire and if Mat says you need a bigger or another heater then that would be pretty conclusive that you do!
You could maybe get more radiant heat from less brick and more glass but it really sounds like you need something with a bigger fire box that can burn more wood.
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