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Tropical Land Close To Ocean, Far From People?

 
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So I'm just fishing for areas of the world, preferentially in the Caribbean, or Oceania most preferentially.

By close to ocean, 30 minute drive or so is acceptable. Not next door, I'm not rich haha.

Far from people, by that I mean very rural. Like preferentially very, very, isolated and rural. Less people the better

I know that is a lot to ask, but im wondering if you guys could suggest areas. I'm still open to other areas, but those I put up would be great. Not looking for resort style life, more rural homestead in the tropics.
 
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Riley, that sounds like a great place that I wouldn't mind visiting.

I am not positive but I feel anywhere with a 30-minute drive to the ocean is going to be really crowded and touristy.

Do a Google search for "for sale private deserted island".

There are several listing worldwide.  The only problem is that they are not cheap.

If you find what you are looking for let us know
 
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Someone just posted this about homesteading in Fiji: https://permies.com/t/214050/homestead-FIJI
 
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Life isn’t unfair because you can’t have a mortgage on minimum wage. If something is in demand then prices reflect that.
 
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Hi Riley,
having been there done that I would say you need to start looking at the country level, in terms of legality, documentation, logistics of everyday living in a place you are new to, what you need/will have to put up with in terms of society, market, etc (even a hermit in a compound has to pay taxes, do accounting, etc). Also language, security, family (education?), need to travel, etc.
You can rule out certain places right away (foreign land ownership restrictions, visa problems, crime, rampant diseases, etc), then start narrowing down. Then you need to find geography/soil/climate that is conducive to homesteading with the things you want to produce. Anything that near to the coast here (southern Brazil) is usually not super productive (sandy soil) and full of insects that will be happy to wreak havoc on you and your produce (vegetable as well as animal), but I'm also biased as someone who doesn't go out in the sun much and hates beachy places with lots of people.....
Frankly there seem to be few places anywhere where coastline is cheap and abundant anymore, since the moneyed types like to snap them up for vacation homes. It might be helpful to consider what exactly you want to do, why you want to be near the beach, what you want to grow, what you hope to do homesteading, etc, and maybe prioritize.

Having done it, I wonder if moving abroad really saves any money over say, purchasing land in southern FL or HI or something. I mean, I'm glad I did it, wouldn't have it any other way, but I've seen a lot of people come and go and honestly it takes a really hard-headed type to stay.

Land seems cheap abroad, but costs mount up real quick from moving and bureaucracy and outfitting yourself (I won't even start up on dual taxation, maybe you're lucky enough to not deal with that). You can bring a lot (we sure did) but it can be a real headache when you need diatomaceous earth/a broadfork/anything nonplastic/livestock fencing/etc and they simply don't exist here, Amazon doesn't ship here, or if it does your packages get stolen in customs or you get taxed whatever the guy on duty thinks is appropriate, since your foreign name means you might pay more... it ain't all pineapples and sunshine!
Bright side, you get really good at being resilient and can build some ridiculous skills. And it's adventure.

We've had a number of similar threads in the past and I'll see if I can find some to link later today.
 
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okay, a thread and a half here
https://permies.com/t/97018/Tropical-Locations-Buy-Land
https://permies.com/t/138859/move-tropics (andrew's response there is worth reading)
also check out where people are located here in the tropical forum, you'll see that a few countries/areas pop up over and over again
https://permies.com/f/221/tropical-climate
 
                              
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I think you're describing Belize. It has Caribbean + Central American culture. Property law is welcoming to non-citizens. English is the language of business, government, education, and as a British Commonwealth, the laws are reasonable. It's ~400k people in a country the size of Mass -- 35 people per square mile, the lowest in Central America.

Understand, it is a developing nation. Poverty and climate change are threats. Main highways are paved, good roads have gravel, but there's a lot that are barely passable during the wet season, even in a 4x4 with knobby tires. Cell coverage is great, but electricity doesn't go many places outside of villages. You'd need a well or rainwater cistern.
 
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I just read that there's been a huge exodus from the Cook Islands the last couple years. Their economy is heavily dependent on tourism, which collapsed during  covid travel restrictions. So people are leaving to find work.

Foreigners can only lease land, but I bet there's lots available right now.

Not sure how you'd make money once you got there.

I think it's important to keep in mind that when people from richer countries go to live in poorer countries we drive up prices for the local population.  Where I live, people bitch constantly about people from the lower mainland moving here. They sell their average house in the city for three million dollars, then buy some overpriced property here, sight unseen, and rave about what a good deal they got and how cheap everything is here, all while prices go up and up and local wages do not.

Those same people bitching about rich city people moving here see no hypocrisy in coming to the conclusion that they should sell their house for a ridiculous price to some rich sucker and use the money to move to Thailand - or wherever.
 
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This is my very first post here, and I'm not much on forums, but decided to sign up to this one since I'm considering an ecovillage type project in Puerto Rico.  Or just a few people sharing resources, etc.

Puerto Rico actually sounds like a good spot to me.  Many rural plats far away from people and the beach isn't far off.  Neither is civilization, when needed, and it's always needed.  New solar panels, pumps etc.  Most people speak English, no passport needed so easy to bring others, a large port region and relatively affordable lands with an international Airport or two.  And none of the requisite vetting needed like moving to Mex, Panama, or any other country for that matter.

Now I have already heard some of the complaints of those nearest me, but they don't know real estate as I do, or have the inside Intel I resource.  PR is wholly under rated IMHO.  Fertile grounds for year round growing and abundant fresh water sources.  

Vieques is even cooler; more remote but also more $$ and goods and services must be procured from the mainland PR, which requires a decent boat or small aircraft.

Also, there are a number of hotels on large acreage from 4-25+ acres currently for sale on the island ranging from $1.5M to $5M.  This is an amazing opportunity for the right group, even a 501.3.c charity.  Several have a number of free standing cottages offering privacy and a lot of charm.  

Check realtor.com, zillow and commercial re for sale. There's even a very cool multi unti hotel on Vieques with ocean views, lots of land and oozing with charm and tranquility.

Let me know what you think.  I'm tough skinned.  Already been skewered here by people who seem to have no idea what's going down in the US.  And when I say down?  I have chosen my words intentionally.

Cheers,
Jane
 
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