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I am in zone 6b, southwestern Michigan. I would like to not have to use shade cloths eventually, but right now the sun is just too intense. For perennials, we have yarrow, grapes, thyme, and brussel sprouts that it decided they are perennial. Also foxglove, strawberries, and a few other spreading herbs like sweet alyssum and oregano. What else would you plant in this garden? By the way in this picture, we are facing East. Not bad for only a 2 year old plot.😐
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You need some shade? How about an apple tree? I'd also plant garlic unless you have that stashed somewhere else.
 
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That could work. I was even thinking something weird, like meddlar. It doesn't grow as huge and fruits a lot sooner. Seems to be pretty hardy to our zone too. We have chives in with the grapes that seem to be doing well, but I need to work on our soil some more before the garlic will do garlic things, too much clay and weed pressure I think. I've tried garlic a couple times over there, no dice.
 
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Lilac is nice.   Early bloomer,  attracts beneficials,  grows fast, can be cut hard,  comes in whatever size/color you want.   And if you have small livestock they LOVE it and it can be coppiced for forage.

I'd personally love a medlar.  I've been contemplating if I have room for one :)
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Onion Family: garlic, garlic-chives, chives, onion, leeks, etc
Mint Family: lemon balm, mint, winter savory, oregano, thyme, rosemary, etc
Carrot Family: Lovage, celery, cilantro, etc
Rose Family: Blackberry, Raspberry (no apple/pear/medlar/quince or peach/plum/apricot/almond/cherry)
Currants: Jostaberry, Currant, Gooseberry
Main Plant: Nikita Persimmon  (its only 12ft at maturity vs 40ft), there is also jujube or PawPaw or Weeping Mulberry. (My vote would be against stone fruits and apple/pear)
Vine:  Hardy Kiwi is a very good option, Akebia is really interesting to see, maypop might be worth a try

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My personal favorite is a moth bean.  These can be bought in bulk from India food stores, or Amazon.  Their other name is Turkish gram bean.

These grow well in hot climate, but I enjoy them for their taste. Not only are their beans delicious, but sprouting these beans makes the most delicious sprouts. Even when they grow large, they barely have any taste.

If you enjoy sprouting mung beans, these are very similar, but with a clean taste that mung beans lack.

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A Hidalgo wrote:I am in zone 6b, southwestern Michigan. I would like to not have to use shade cloths eventually, but right now the sun is just too intense. For perennials, we have yarrow, grapes, thyme, and brussel sprouts that it decided they are perennial. Also foxglove, strawberries, and a few other spreading herbs like sweet alyssum and oregano. What else would you plant in this garden? By the way in this picture, we are facing East. Not bad for only a 2 year old plot.😐


I'm probably 2 hours north of you. I grow Jerusalem Artichokes (a row planted north to south on the west edge of the garden) for sumer afternoon shade. That lets my brassicas handle the heat, and saves on watering in August. I also have apple trees and elder in the same fashion for another plot.

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Corn!

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Garlic is a cold weather crop so why are some people suggesting garlic?
 
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I also grow and love sochan (cutleaf coneflower)...  perennial early green in the spring and tall lovely sunflower type blooms all late summer/fall that attract goldfinch and pollinators.  But, it both spreads and reseeds very freely and vigorously.  It's also a north american native so another bonus.  I stealth seed bombed it around the wooded path areas of local parks last year. You might not have room for it on a small plot without it becoming a pest.   But if you do,  it's sort of a spinach/parsley flavor and its a really early harvest, before anything else.   I canned a lot of it this spring to be able to have later in the year too.   It holds up as well as /slightly better than spinach so far...  

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Jesse Dean wrote:Garlic is a cold weather crop so why are some people suggesting garlic?



I think some of us are interpreting this as a general "what to plant here" over time question, not what to plant right now.  Not sure which the OP intended.

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