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John Suavecito wrote:Logging is one of the best ways to stop flooding? That is a really interesting statement. When you log a forest, you remove the trees, which sucked up a lot of the water. The roots die, so they won't hold the soil in place as well anymore. You are tremendously decreasing the amount of organic material in the forest area, so the soil will turn more clay-like. You won't have a fire, so there won't be any natural biochar. You decrease the mushrooms, small plants and mycorrizhae. Runoff will be fast and swift, increasing erosion. I don't see it stopping flooding. Quite the opposite. I do like the strategies you used to defray the damage caused by the logging, though.
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C. Letellier wrote:
John Suavecito wrote:Logging is one of the best ways to stop flooding? That is a really interesting statement. When you log a forest, you remove the trees, which sucked up a lot of the water. The roots die, so they won't hold the soil in place as well anymore. You are tremendously decreasing the amount of organic material in the forest area, so the soil will turn more clay-like. You won't have a fire, so there won't be any natural biochar. You decrease the mushrooms, small plants and mycorrizhae. Runoff will be fast and swift, increasing erosion. I don't see it stopping flooding. Quite the opposite. I do like the strategies you used to defray the damage caused by the logging, though.
John S
PDX OR
In the very short term it may make things worse but if done correctly it should do little damage. Limit clear cutting to small areas. Other areas do selective harvest and reach in a bit and strip ladder fuels around both while working through to reduce fire hazard and increase the slash pile size. If the roots from the cut trees are mostly not disturbed they become hugelkulture holding moisture as they start to rot away which will take years to decades so they are there to hold the soil short term. Do some limited digging(yes worsen erosion) into the hill make swales and pits at carefully chosen locations that the slash piles from the timber harvest go into. Do some burn pits to make biochar with some and then while the machinery is there mix the biochar, dirt while burying the main slash piles. Most place the slash is all burned so if most of it is gone while generating massive air pollution. But if you only burn some of the slash that pollution is reduced If you plan carefully your bio char pits can become your swales etc. Now over the next decade as the slash pile begins to rot away it begins storing water as hugelkulture and biochar. If we plant the top in soil builders and work with faunal succession, we should create small zones that super support future forest. If we work up the hill in say 5 year steps much of the erosion should have growing filter strip directly below it reducing any soil losses. If the cutting areas are zig zaggy strips with small clear cuts we can create temporary meadows and small growth forest stages to act as fire break without creating the eye sore of a big clear cut. On some drainages plant sections of forest to support beaver to encourage beaver dams as additional future self repairing swales. In the short term this all will decrease down stream water but as this all gets charged up springs and seeps will grow providing a slow steady water source reducing down stream flooding, reducing erosion and reducing the effects of droughts by storing more water literally in the hills and mountains. The areas of higher moisture holding will reduce fire risk in those areas. They will improve micro climates over and even wider area also reducing fire risk Giving a better chance of eventually being able to harvest big trees for use in building materials that will sequester that carbon for decades to millennia. Neat thing is the end customer actually pays for that sequestration. We can improve the world slowly without burdening anyone but a few consumers of resources with the cost of the improvement. Thus making the economics work too while improving the environment at all levels. And since biochar and hugelkulture are good for millennia we will have room for multiple runs at improving those area. Millennia? you say. Yes we can look at the drought hills in the UK from almost a decade ago. On the drought killed hills the green outlines of forts showed from nearly 2000 years BC so nearly a 4000 year affect of burying wood.(possibly charred wood.) And we know as we increase water holding and moisture in from most coast we can create basically a bucket brigade system that carries more water inland in the form of rain. Will this possibly help fight climate change? It should most certain increase our available long term resources.
This is all just my opinion based on a flawed memory
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