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"The most fundamental law
is to recognize that we share the planet
with other beings,
and that we have a duty
to care for our common home."

~Vandana Shiva
(1952-pres., Indian scholar, environmental activist,
food sovereignty advocate, ecofeminist)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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"Stay close to nature,
and to your own creaturely instincts.
It's a cold, hard winter out there,
but underneath the ice and snow,
nature is preparing for an uprising.
There's underground work to be done
for and with your family and friends,
your community, your country,
your soul."

~Parker Palmer
(1939-Pres., Senior associate
of the American Association
of Higher Education,
senior advisor to the Fetzer Institute,
founder of the Center for Courage and Renewal)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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Active hope is a practice.
Like tai chi or gardening,
it is something we do rather than have.
It is a process we can apply to any situation,
and it involves three key steps.
First, we take a clear view of reality;
second, we identify what we hope for
in terms of the direction we'd like things to move in
or the values we'd like to see expressed;
and third, we take steps to move ourselves
or our situation in that direction.
~Joanna Macy

(1929-pres., environmental activist, author,
scholar of Buddhism, general systems theory,
and deep ecology)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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Raise your words,
not voice.
It is rain that grows flowers,
not thunder.

~Mavlana Jalaladin Rumi
(1207-1273 Persian Poet and Mystic)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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Words do have power.

Names have power.

Words are events,

they do things, change things.

They transform both speaker and hearer;

they feed energy back and forth

and amplify it.

~Ursula Le Guin

(1929-2018, American Author)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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Wonderful curation Judith, I just wanted to share my appreciation.

Here is a poem that comes to mind after reading these.

The tree that never had to fight
For sun and sky and air and light,
But stood out in the open plain
And always got its share of rain,
Never became a forest king
But lived and died a scrubby thing.

The man who never had to toil
To gain and farm his patch of soil,
Who never had to win his share
Of sun and sky and light and air,
Never became a manly man
But lived and died as he began.

Good timber does not grow with ease:
The stronger wind, the stronger trees;
The further sky, the greater length;
The more the storm, the more the strength.
By sun and cold, by rain and snow,
In trees and men good timbers grow.

Where thickest lies the forest growth,
We find the patriarchs of both.
And they hold counsel with the stars
Whose broken branches show the scars
Of many winds and much of strife.
This is the common law of life.

Good Timber by Douglas Malloch

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thanks Timothy!

"The moment you step into
somebody else’s universe,
you’re putting yourself
in that place of uncertainty
in which you have to be open to the possibility
of learning something different
or feeling something different.
I think that is where hope is."

~Cristina Pato
(1980 to pres., Galician bagpiper, pianist and composer,
member of the Silk Road Ensemble)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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We can let the circumstances of our lives harden us

so that we become increasingly resentful and afraid,

or we can let them soften us

and make us kinder and more open

to what scares us.

We always have this choice.

~Pema Chodron
(1936 to pres., Buddhist Teacher)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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The great enemy of freedom is the alignment of political power with wealth.
This alignment destroys the commonwealth - that is, the natural wealth
of localities and the local economies of household, neighborhood, and community -
and so destroys democracy, of which the commonwealth is the foundation
and practical means.

Wendell Berry, The Art of the Commonplace: The Agrarian Essays

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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I know, you never intended to be in this world.

But you’re in it all the same.

So why not get started immediately.

I mean, belonging to it.

There is so much to admire, to weep over.

And to write music or poems about.

Bless the feet that take you to and fro.

Bless the eyes and the listening ears.

Bless the tongue, the marvel of taste.

Bless touching.

You could live a hundred years, it’s happened.

Or not.

I am speaking from the fortunate platform

of many years,

none of which, I think, I ever wasted.

Do you need a prod?

Do you need a little darkness to get you going?

Let me be as urgent as a knife, then,

and remind you of Keats,

so single of purpose and thinking, for a while,

he had a lifetime.

~Mary Oliver

(reason for her reference to Keats)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Keats

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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"Poetry is life distilled."

- Gwendolyn Brooks

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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"Back in Homer’s day, people lived within an oral culture, then humans slowly developed a literate culture. Now we seem to be moving to a screen culture. Civilization was fun while it lasted."
-David Brooks

above quote from david brooks opinion piece here...
https://m.neilyoungarchives.com/news/16/article?id=American%20Voices%20%20-%20Producing%20Something%20This%20Stupid%20Is%20the%20Achievement%20of%20a%20Lifetime

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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Feel a little out of place replying to this thread, so I will keep my voice down and speak in this low tone.

I now forget the first post that you had made, but it was the quote from the person named Shiva.

This quote reminded me of when I was playing around with Grok 3 voice activated Ai features just two or three weeks ago. Asking grok for a hot take on immigration, I was surprised (intrigued) by the answer.

Grok discussed the hypothetical "what if" this immigration drama was a test performed on us by entities not of this world. If they were from another dimension or planet, then perhaps they might judge how we would treat them by seeing how we treat humans that we see as "others".

I am vast paraphrasing, as I mainly remember the extensive thoughts that this hot take brought to mind. This would be a way that visitors could judge how we might treat actual aliens.

Freedom!

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hi William!
thanks...I like that example.

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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Pausing and being still enough
to notice love within and around
is a deeply powerful and countercultural act.
It challenges the notion
that it is better to be busy and occupied.
It refuses the call to be constantly distracted
and perpetually plugged in.

~Charles Lattimore Howard
(1978 to pres., University Chaplain and Vice President
for Social Equity and Community
at the University of Pennsylvania)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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You must have a room, or a certain hour or so a day,
where you don't know
what was in the newspapers that morning,
you don't know
who your friends are,
you don't know
what you owe anybody,
you don't know
what anybody owes to you.
This is a place where you can simply experience
and bring forth what you are
and what you might be.
This is the place of creative incubation.
At first you may find that nothing happens there.
But if you have a sacred place and use it,
something eventually will happen.

~Joseph Campbell
(1904-1987, Mythologist and Philosopher)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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Something that I read recently that struck me:

“Blowing up a cliff to steal the mosses is a crime, but it's not against the law, because he "owns" those rocks. It would be easy to call this abduction an act of vandalism. And yet, this is also a man who imports a team of experts for the gentle wrapping of mossy rocks. The Owner is a man who loves mosses. And the exercise of power. I have no doubts of his sincerity in wishing to protect them from harm, once they conformed to his landscape design. But I think you cannot own a thing and love it at the same time. Owning diminishes the innate sovereignty of a thing, enriching the possessor and reducing the possessed. If he truly loved mosses more than control, he would have left them alone and walked each day to see them. Barbara Kingsolver writes, ‘It's going to take the most selfless kind of love to do right by what we cherish and give it the protection to flourish outside our possessive embrace.’”

-Robin Wall Kimmerer, Gathering Moss

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"You are perfectly cast in your life.
I can’t imagine anyone but you in the role.
Go play."

- Lin-Manuel Miranda

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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A community is the mental and spiritual condition of knowing that the place is shared,
and that the people who share the place define and limit the possibilities of each other's lives.
It is the knowledge that people have of each other, their concern for each other,
their trust in each other, the freedom with which they come and go among themselves.

Wendell Berry

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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The practice of stopping,
of coming back to ourselves and the present moment,
is a way of connecting with the divine
within us and around us.
It is a way of cultivating a deeper sense of presence
and gratitude for the gift of life.
The simple act of pausing, of taking a conscious breath
and a step back from our habitual reactivity,
can be a powerful tool for awakening.
In that moment of pause, we open a space
for self-awareness and self-observation to arise.
We become more conscious of our thoughts,
emotions, and physical sensations,
and we can choose how to respond,
rather than simply reacting out of habit.

~Cynthia Bourgeault
(1947 to pres., Episcopal priest, writer, mystic)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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There doesn’t seem to be any hope
unless compassion becomes a more widespread,
important teaching on how to live.
Compassion to self and others.

~Allen Ginsberg
(1926-1997, American Poet)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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Whether we and our politicians know it or not,
Nature is party to all our deals and decisions,
and she has more votes, a longer memory,
and a sterner sense of justice than we do.

Wendell Berry

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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It is no longer appropriate to think only in terms of even my nation or my country,
let alone my village.

If we are to overcome the problems we face, we need what I have called a sense of universal responsibility rooted in love and kindness for our human brothers and sisters.

In our present state of affairs, the very survival of humankind depends on people developing concern for the whole of humanity, not just their own community or nation.

The reality of our situation impels us to act and think more clearly.

Narrow-mindedness and self-centered thinking may have served us well in the past, but today will only lead to disaster.

We can overcome such attitudes through the combination of education and training.

Joanna Macy
Coming Back to Life: The Updated Guide to the Work That Reconnects
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23827034-coming-back-to-life

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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Gratitude bestows reverence,
allowing us to encounter everyday epiphanies,
those transcendent moments of awe
that change forever
how we experience life
and the world.

~John Milton
(1608 to 1674, English poet and philosopher)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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Reciprocity is a dance like life itself.
The air we breathe, the food we eat,
the wounds we carry,
and the love we share
are all given and received.
Reciprocity reminds us
to look beyond roles to relationship.
When we give without differentiating self from other,
and when we receive
without differentiating it from the giving,
then we can find the gift of "dāna" everywhere.

~Melina Bondy
(Psychotherapist and Buddhist teacher)

(dāna is the practice of cultivating generosity.
It can take the form of giving to an individual in distress or need,
or of philanthropic public projects that empower and help many.)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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“How much contempt is stirred up at times towards the vulnerable, the marginalized, and migrants! On this day, I would like all of us to hope anew and to revive our trust in others, including those who are different than ourselves, or who come from distant lands, bringing unfamiliar customs, ways of life and ideas!”
Pope Francis
(from papal address delivered Easter Sunday at the Vatican)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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Earth Day Chinook Prayer

We call upon the earth, our planet home, with its beautiful depths and soaring
heights, its vitality and abundance of life, and together we ask that it

Teach us, and show us the Way.

We call upon the mountains, the Cascades and the Olympics, the high green
valleys and meadows filled with wild flowers, the snows that never melt, the
summits of intense silence, and we ask that they

Teach us, and show us the Way.

We call upon the waters that rim the earth, horizon to horizon, that flow in our
rivers and streams, that fall upon our gardens and fields and we ask that they

Teach us, and show us the Way.

We call upon the land which grows our food, the nurturing soil, the fertile fields,
the abundant gardens and orchards, and we ask that they

Teach us, and show us the Way.

We call upon the forests, the great trees reaching strongly to the sky with earth in
their roots and the heavens in their branches, the fir and the pine and the
cedar, and we ask them to

Teach us, and show us the Way.

We call upon the creatures of the fields and forests and the seas, our brothers and
sisters the wolves and deer, the eagle and dove, the great whales and the dolphin,
the beautiful Orca and salmon who share our Northwest home, and we ask them to

Teach us, and show us the Way.

We call upon all those who have lived on this earth, our ancestors and our friends,
who dreamed the best for future generations, and upon whose lives our lives are
built, and with thanksgiving, we call upon them to

Teach us, and show us the Way.

And lastly, we call upon all that we hold most sacred, the presence and power of
the Great Spirit of love and truth which flows through all the Universe, to be with
us to

Teach us, and show us the Way.

~Chinook Prayer
(Chinook tribes consists of five distinct tribes: The Willapa,
Wahkiakum, Lower Chinook, Kathlamet, and Clatsop
located along the Columbia River
in southern Washington State and northern Oregon)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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"Man's attitude toward nature is today critically important simply because we have now acquired a fateful power to alter and destroy nature.
But man is a part of nature, and his war against nature is inevitably a war against himself? We are challenged as mankind has never been challenged before to prove our maturity and our mastery, not of nature, but of ourselves."

Rachel Carson
(The spark for the first Earth Day was the 1962 publication of Rachel Carson’s Silent Spring)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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I choose joy over despair.

Not because I have my head in the sand,

but because joy

is what the earth gives me daily

and I must return the gift

~Robin Wall Kimmerer

(1953 to pres., plant ecologist,

teacher of environmental science)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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Even in the darkest days,

the moon and sun

make their ancient, reliable journeys.

Birds sing.

Some green thing insists on growing

in a ravaged land.

Our own human life force

refuses to give up.

~Trebbe Johnson

(Eco-activist, Mindfulness Teacher and Mythologist,

founder of Radical Joy for Hard Times)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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Active Hope is not wishful thinking.
Active Hope is not waiting to be rescued . . . .
by some savior.
Active Hope is waking up to the beauty of life
on whose behalf we can act.
We belong to this world.
The web of life is calling us forth at this time.
We’ve come a long way and are here to play our part.
With Active Hope we realize that there are adventures in store,
strengths to discover, and comrades to link arms with.
Active Hope is a readiness to discover the strengths
in ourselves and in others;
a readiness to discover the reasons for hope
and the occasions for love.
A readiness to discover the size and strength of our hearts,
our quickness of mind, our steadiness of purpose,
our own authority, our love for life,
the liveliness of our curiosity,
the unsuspected deep well of patience and diligence,
the keenness of our senses, and our capacity to lead.
None of these can be discovered in an armchair or without risk.
Joanna Macy

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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Knowing that you love the earth
changes you,
activates you to defend
and protect and celebrate.
But when you feel that the earth
loves you in return,
that feeling transforms the relationship
from a one-way street into a sacred bond.

~Robin Wall Kimmerer
(1953 to pres., plant ecologist,
teacher of environmental science)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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Judith Browning wrote:
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But when you feel that the earth
loves you in return,
that feeling transforms the relationship
from a one-way street into a sacred bond.

~Robin Wall Kimmerer
(1953 to pres., plant ecologist,
teacher of environmental science)

Braiding Sweetgrass is one of my favourite books!
This spring I said to my hubby "Look! Something has happened! It feels as if...as if this garden loves us too!"
We're entering into our third summer here

* Follow your curiosity , Do what you Love *
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Nina,

Yes!
That feeling is wonderful....sometimes it seems like everything we do here is so slow but I think in the end that's what feels right interacting with the world around us.

Our library does not have Braiding Sweet Grass and the ebook library always has it on hold but one day I'll read it whole rather than the bits and pieces I do now

Surprisingly, our library did have 'The Serviceberry, Abundance and Reciprocity' on the new book shelf so I grabbed it and have just begun to read...it was just out last year.

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"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
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Judith,

Ooh, good to know there's a new book out by her!

I was surprised to sense the ...jubilating joy and see the loving beauty of the garden here after the winter. We have been feeding the soil around the fruit trees and I pruned them this winter. There's something very special in the energy that is emanating from the garden now!
I believe that when we tend to a place or space, it does something nearly magical with the energy. It's reciprocity in a very pure form.

Often the change is too slow to notice on a day to day basis, but after a pause, like the winter or perhaps a trip to somewhere else and returning makes noticing it easier.

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Judith Browning

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It’s not life’s job to make me happy.

It’s my job to find the joy in life

by observing and appreciating

the small wonders

and everyday miracles

that are all around me,

everywhere, every minute of my life.

~Paul Cotter

(photographer, writer, and educator)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

Judith Browning

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It isn't more light we need,

it's putting into practice

what light we already have.

When we do that,

wonderful things will happen

within our lives

and within our world.

~Peace Pilgrim

(1908-1981, mystic, vegetarian activist,

peace activist, pacifist)

"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young

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