What are your thoughts how could this be improved? What problems might arise if this was put into place?
I guess my concern would be with rotting the fence.
Edit: Sheet piling is when you drive a sheet of metal into the ground, usually for excavation to prevent cave-ins
Sam Barber wrote:Would that be a good thing or a bad thing?
I'd say that would always be a good thing unless you are building in a swamp.
Love this idea. The logs stacked vertically makes it feasible and I think durable enough. Might have to implement this. I just need more soil, since this doesn't involve significant excavation.
Fill the open ends with soil and wood.
Hammer some long stakes, wood or metal, in front of the stack to keep it up right.
Lots of potential gick, but not too much for me.
my neighbor does this without ever havin heard of huggel beds or sepp holzer. The one caveate is that he piles up against a concrete wall between our yards so no rot. This might not be possible In your situation, but I figured I'd post it, cause it works so well. Another benefit is he captures more rainfall by sloping his borders back onto his property. In fact this sloped huggel leads to his pond. BTW this is in an urban environment.
Will Scoggins wrote:I would think it would take a substantial amount of reinforcing. To pour a 6" slab of concrete you need to put stakes every 4' or so. To make a Hugel just 4' tall would need a full on retaining wall I would expect.
I completely agree with Will, with an emphasis on SUBSTANTIAL.
Even if you place vertical logs, they will only provide structural support for so long. Once they rot, all the pressure they would be taking would be on the fence.
Even if the vertical logs in the second drawing were cedar or some other rot resistant wood (which are not recommended woods for hugulkulture), they will eventually break down, or at least succumb to leaning toward the fence under the weight of the hugul, and the hugul's constant moisture infiltrating the subsoil they are planted in. You would be slightly better off by placing the logs on a diagonal angle leaning slightly away from the fence to decrease the force of the bed material on the fence, but again, as this rots you will have problems--since The bed is lop sided against the fence.
In my opinion a retaining wall is totally necessary.
This question could be posted on the 'buildings' part of the forums to see what the structural people would have to say, but in my opinion, a retaining wall would be totally necessary. You could not reinforce an already existing wooden fence enough.
Concrete sheeting would not keep out the constant bleed of moisture from a hugulkultur. Plastic would be better to protect the wood, but moisture might get between the fence and plastic.
I see the fence rotting, but also, more importantly -because the rot could probably be shielded somehow- the weight is the problem, and will be unless a retaining wall is built.
I can't find that thread where a giant triangular rack was built from pallets. I think it was in Toronto. There were some very impressive photos. If you know where it is, please add the link.
Here's one from Google Images. Search pallet towers. --- http://www.pinterest.com/pin/33425222208026863/
Peter Ellis wrote:Dale, I think you mean this one?
That's it. Thanks Peter. --- This one sits like a step ladder with slope to both surfaces. It could be built in an L-shape with the vertical side up against the fence and then sloped into Sam's yard, just like in his drawing. Nothing would touch the fence. An idea situation would see some fence removed and both neighbors sharing one built like in the other thread.
Seth Peterson wrote:So...
my neighbor does this without ever havin heard of huggel beds or Sepp Holzer. The one caveate is that he piles up against a concrete wall between our yards so no rot.
This is pretty much what I am doing (work in progress!). Hopefully next week the new walled-slope hugelkultur will be ready! In the picture: the wall, biomass (logs - twigs - branches) for the hugel, leaves for mulch.
I will post more pictures showing how is the work going on in my blog ortomontano.
Any advise would be welcome!