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"In a fruit forest everyone is happy"- Sepp Holzer
"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young
"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young
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Cj Verde wrote:Nice.
You might consider shocking the ones from the same batch that didn't fruit.
I'm in the middle of trying to reclaim my laying field after a massive Beech tree fell right in the middle of it. I'm shocking them all and the ones that don't fruit are going into a possible cull pile.
I'd love to see pics of anyone's fruiting area. I'm considering putting down black plastic and then making a A-frame because our shiitakes are near a stream that the slugs love.
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"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young
Judith Browning wrote:Just found a surprise flush of our cold weather strain of shiitake, Bellwether.
Jennifer Quinn wrote:
Judith Browning wrote:Just found a surprise flush of our cold weather strain of shiitake, Bellwether.
Wow, those are beautiful! What have the temperatures been like in your region?
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Dale Hodgins wrote:Have any of you tried to grow shitake on uprooted tree stumps ?
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Dale Hodgins wrote:Have any of you tried to grow shitake on uprooted tree stumps ? I've made an arrangement to have hundreds of stumps delivered in demolition containers for a very ambitious hugelkultur project. For mushrooms, the excavator would stack them in rows 8-10 ft high, with a 4 foot corridor between. My plan, which is open to revision, is to inoculate them immediately and hope the shitake become dominant. Moisture is not a problem. Any suggestions on how to prevent other mushrooms from invading. Cleanliness is not an option, due to the awkward nature of stumps.
I may place a few thick rows up to 10 feet apart and span the gap with a single plane greenhouse roof. This would be a sort of pit house for things that can take partial shade. I imagine that the fruiting season would be different inside the greenhouses. I'm hoping to extend the harvest period by providing differing conditions, since shocking and moisture control will be less accurate in piles that may go 100 tons each. This is all dependent on supply. There's room for 1000 tons. They are paying me $4 per cubic yard. This works out to roughly $10 per ton. Material will show up muddy and busted up from being packed into the bins with an excavator.
"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young
M.K. Dorje Jr. wrote:Judith, those photo are really cool. That recipe really sounds delicious- I'm gonna have to try that! I soaked a few of my Bellwether logs last month during a cool, wet period and I got a real nice fruiting off them. It's hot and dry here now, so I'm going to wait till fall before I soak any more logs. In the meantime, I've started running a sprinkler on one of the White Chanterelle patches that is next to my main blueberry garden. I've also been finding Yellow Chanterelles along the ocean in the fog belt- woohoo!
"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young
"In a fruit forest everyone is happy"- Sepp Holzer
Dale Hodgins wrote:Have any of you tried to grow shitake on uprooted tree stumps ? I've made an arrangement to have hundreds of stumps delivered in demolition containers for a very ambitious hugelkultur project. For mushrooms, the excavator would stack them in rows 8-10 ft high, with a 4 foot corridor between. My plan, which is open to revision, is to inoculate them immediately and hope the shitake become dominant. Moisture is not a problem. Any suggestions on how to prevent other mushrooms from invading. Cleanliness is not an option, due to the awkward nature of stumps.
I may place a few thick rows up to 10 feet apart and span the gap with a single plane greenhouse roof. This would be a sort of pit house for things that can take partial shade. I imagine that the fruiting season would be different inside the greenhouses. I'm hoping to extend the harvest period by providing differing conditions, since shocking and moisture control will be less accurate in piles that may go 100 tons each. This is all dependent on supply. There's room for 1000 tons. They are paying me $4 per cubic yard. This works out to roughly $10 per ton. Material will show up muddy and busted up from being packed into the bins with an excavator.
"In a fruit forest everyone is happy"- Sepp Holzer
How much do you suppose you make per hour for your efforts if you were to sell 100% of the crop ?
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"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young
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Agriculture collects solar energy two-dimensionally; but silviculture collects it three dimensionally.
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Agriculture collects solar energy two-dimensionally; but silviculture collects it three dimensionally.
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Agriculture collects solar energy two-dimensionally; but silviculture collects it three dimensionally.
"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young
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'Dormant' logs can, however, be activated by soaking them for a few hours and striking them with a mallet or rock.
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Storing the fresh mushrooms
For a high-quality mushroom, it is important to get the harvested mushrooms
into refrigerated storage as soon as possible, certainly within one hour
of picking. These mushrooms will remain fresh and marketable for several
weeks, if kept in a cool (41°F), dry and dark place. Do not seal them in an
airtight container. A paper bag (not plastic) works very well. Keep in mind
that mushrooms will dry out and lose weight the longer they are stored. See
sidebar for more information.
Stainless steel hotel pans have become
our preferred storage container
because they are large and come in
various sizes. To control moisture in the
bottom of the pans we put down a layer
of paper towel, but leave the top open.
If we have to hold mushrooms a week
or more, we’ll transfer them to clean
pans occasionally and replace the paper
towels. This helps to make sure they
have good air circulation around them,
too. We use baskets in the fridge at
times, but have found that the fiber baskets
start to mold pretty quickly. Those
are reserved now for harvesting. Paper
bags don’t work well for long, unless
you deliver or sell your mushrooms the
day or so after harvest. This, of course, is
the best-case scenario! One factor that I
don’t think we’ll ever be able to account
for is shrinkage from dehydration in the
fridge. What we harvest and what we
sell can be quite different depending
on how long they are refrigerated. That
brings down the “income per pound” by
some percentage unknown.
-Steve and Julie Rockcastle,
Green Heron Growers
“It’s been my experience this year that
wax-lined cardboard boxes are the best
way to store mushrooms in the refrigerator.
I have been getting boxes from my
restaurants. They typically have several
openings to allow air flow through the
box during storage.
“One thing I’ve learned is not to put
too many mushrooms in a box. For example,
I can fit about 6 to 7 pounds in
a typical box (15”x20”x4”) and that’s
about it. Mushrooms keep very well in
a fridge, if stored properly, with some
air flow. If you overcrowd fresh mushrooms
the bottom ones won’t get any
air flow and they’ll head south sooner
that you’d like them to.”
- Matt Anderson,
Tyrrel Mushroom Farm
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Cj Verde wrote:I'm about to have a big shiitake harvest! What's the best way to store them fresh? And how many days should they last?
I tend to keep them out on the counter & they will dry out eventually but I'm not sure that's the best way to do it.
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"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young
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Agriculture collects solar energy two-dimensionally; but silviculture collects it three dimensionally.
"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young
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Agriculture collects solar energy two-dimensionally; but silviculture collects it three dimensionally.
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Agriculture collects solar energy two-dimensionally; but silviculture collects it three dimensionally.
What do people do to protect against rain? Does shade cloth help? We have a lot of used metal roofing my husband got off a job site. I'm considering making another A-frame with a roof.
"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young
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Agriculture collects solar energy two-dimensionally; but silviculture collects it three dimensionally.
Check out Redhawk's soil series: https://permies.com/wiki/redhawk-soil
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Agriculture collects solar energy two-dimensionally; but silviculture collects it three dimensionally.
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Agriculture collects solar energy two-dimensionally; but silviculture collects it three dimensionally.
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Dale Hodgins wrote:Thank you everyone for your help. I was planning to use maple and Arbutus (also known as Pacific Madrona), fruit wood and a little bit of oak. Oak is rare here and has other uses. I'm encouraging the supplier to leave the stumps dirty, since they contain the best top soil and I'm short of good soil. I will try the oysters and will give shitake a limited try. If one or both fail, the stumps will go into hugelkultur.
Sometimes, whole trees may be munched and sent my way. I could hose off nice sections of log and do it more conventionally. Here's the big question. How much do you suppose you male per hour for your efforts if you were to sell 100% of the crop ?
Cj Verde wrote:
So after that big flush, some logs started to pin again! They produced a few small shiitakes but I decide to soak them again and it looks like a bunch more are fruiting. I know you're supposed to wait at least 7 weeks before trying to force them, but if their going to fruit again naturally I figure I'd better rehydrate.
Anyone experience something similar?
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