Tomato weirdness

Okay hivemind.
What is this stuff on my tomato leaves?

Some of it is purple on very green leaves.



Some of it is getting purple on yellowing leaves

spotted wilt virus?

go to the second picture down.spotted wilt

I would try this:

1 gal water, 1 T dish soap, 1 T baking soda.

I put it in a spray bottle to make applying it easy.

Some recipes call for adding oil. I have never found a need for the oil.

It's late in the season, I suspect magnesium deficiency.


from Harry Solomon's post

Do you intend to keep the tomatoes going much longer? A dose of Epsom salts is the quickest/available source for a pick you up. If the frosts are due soon I wouldn't (personally) bother as the plants will die then anyway.

Nancy Reading wrote:It's late in the season, I suspect magnesium deficiency.

Do you intend to keep the tomatoes going much longer? A dose of Epsom salts is the quickest/available source for a pick you up. If the frosts are due soon I wouldn't (personally) bother as the plants will die then anyway.

These are all inside the greenhouse and most of them are heavy with fruit. I still haven't had that rush of harvest one would expect by this late in the season.
So, I was expecting to keep them going for a few more weeks.
I'll see if we have any Epsom salt.

C. Letellier wrote:spotted wilt virus?

go to the second picture down.spotted wilt

It does look very similar, but the articles did not have any treatment ideas or plans.

Anne Miller wrote:I would try this:

1 gal water, 1 T dish soap, 1 T baking soda.

I put it in a spray bottle to make applying it easy.

Some recipes call for adding oil. I have never found a need for the oil.

What ailment is this supposed to treat?

Do they look like these:https://permies.com/t/165424/Ack-brandywines-dragon-scales
How about the newer growth? Are leaves and flower clusters getting smaller with uneven fruit maturity within a cluster?

Joshua States wrote:

Anne Miller wrote:I would try this:
1 gal water, 1 T dish soap, 1 T baking soda.
I put it in a spray bottle to make applying it easy.
Some recipes call for adding oil. I have never found a need for the oil.

What ailment is this supposed to treat?

Fungal

We cannot grow tomatoes because my husband smokes.  The tomatoes get something like the above picture and the disease is a wilt of some kind.

Here are some threads that might be of interest to you or others:

https://permies.com/t/14359/Success-fighting-fusarium-verticillium-improving

https://permies.com/t/161258/Fusarium-DISEASE-Losing-mind-ready

https://permies.com/t/170405/Verticillium-fulsarium-wilt

May Lotito wrote:Do they look like these:https://permies.com/t/165424/Ack-brandywines-dragon-scales
How about the newer growth? Are leaves and flower clusters getting smaller with uneven fruit maturity within a cluster?

Yes! That's exactly what they look like. I'll go out tomorrow and cut all the affected stems & leaves off.

Don't cut them. As I see your tomatoes have lots of suckers so they are not growing in a linear mode, the bigger they grow the exceedingly more nutrient they need. If something runs short from the soil, they start pulling from the old leaves to feed the growing tips and fruits.  This mottled  leaves are rare to see and it took me a while to figure out. For diagnosis purpose, I fixed it with molybdenum alone. You can try wood ash in water for quick mineral recharge, as high pH makes Mo more available. In the future, adding basalt rock dust, alfalfa meal, rabbit manure or worm castings will make the soil rich and balanced.

Nancy Reading wrote:It's late in the season, I suspect magnesium deficiency.

Do you intend to keep the tomatoes going much longer? A dose of Epsom salts is the quickest/available source for a pick you up. If the frosts are due soon I wouldn't (personally) bother as the plants will die then anyway.

I do plan on keeping them until they croak. We have below freezing temps every night, but the greenhouse is staying pretty warm, so the tomatoes and a couple of holdout peppers are still hanging in there.
My wife came home today with a quart bag of Epsom salt from one of her yoga students who has a fabulous garden. I'll see her tonight and ask how to apply it. If you have any suggested methods, I'm all ears.

Joshua States wrote:

Nancy Reading wrote:It's late in the season, I suspect magnesium deficiency.

Do you intend to keep the tomatoes going much longer? A dose of Epsom salts is the quickest/available source for a pick you up. If the frosts are due soon I wouldn't (personally) bother as the plants will die then anyway.

I do plan on keeping them until they croak. We have below freezing temps every night, but the greenhouse is staying pretty warm, so the tomatoes and a couple of holdout peppers are still hanging in there.
My wife came home today with a quart bag of Epsom salt from one of her yoga students who has a fabulous garden. I'll see her tonight and ask how to apply it. If you have any suggested methods, I'm all ears.

 my father grew fabulous tomatoes. he used to dissolve a tbs of epsom salt in a gal. of warm water and wet the whole plant down with half of it. the rest in the soil. they usually bounced right back after that if it was a MG deficiency. it definitely cant hurt even if its not that.