I found these 2 beauties - and a scary experience

I found these 2 beauties growing in The soil in a deforested área in The Amazon jungle.

When it was raw, it was spongy and fleshy . But when i boiled them in a soup they almost desintegrated.

I'm spreading The mycelium i'm a wet cardword using The sandwich technique. And it seems it's working.

Any idea of The name of this fungi ?

I think the name of this mushroom is Chlorophyllum molybdites , what do You think? It says it's toxic. Yesterday I ate 2 Big mushrooms in a soup and Then i had diarrea . I'm still having diarrea but i'm ok .
I'm happy i'm Alive.

It's not a good idea to test a mushrooms edibility by eating them or even tasting a bit!

Years ago, I sat with my guy while he puked and puked after 'tasting a tiny bit' of what he thought was a shaggy mane mushroom....very similar apperance but the big distinction was that as it matured the gills were green indicating it was not a shaggy mane but a toxic look a like.

We were always much more cautious after that and used books and local mushroom foragers as sources for ID...and were not satisfied with only one source.


I'm afraid you are going to scare anyone here out of helping to ID your mushrooms if you keep eating them without a positive ID.

In case this isn't clear, cooking does not make a toxic mushroom edible.

I hope you recover quickly from this episode 😊


edit to add....your photographs are great...When I was online more and on facebook there was a local mushroom ID expert that we would send photos to for more certainty in an ID.  I wonder if there is something like that for your area?

There are old mushroom hunters and there are bold mushroom hunters. There are no old bold mushroom hunters.

hehe.

If that had been a death cap amanita…

Someone mentioned that that mushroom may have been a deadly species of Lepiota, containing amatoxins; and that they can cause diarrhoea, which gets better and then later, up to a few days, liver failure sets in. This person fervently recommended that you seek out medical assistance as soon as possible.

For the sake of continued life, it may be extremely beneficial to take milk thistle seed, or its extract, silymarin, which may help. It may be life saving, and if the medical system there is like here the doctors may not give it to you because it’s an herb.

I have not personally dealt with amatoxin poisoning but have read about it.

M Ljin wrote:Someone mentioned that that mushroom may have been a deadly species of Lepiota, containing amatoxins; and that they can cause diarrhoea, which gets better and then later, up to a few days, liver failure sets in. This person fervently recommended that you seek out medical assistance as soon as possible.

For the sake of continued life, it may be extremely beneficial to take milk thistle seed, or its extract, silymarin, which may help. It may be life saving, and if the medical system there is like here the doctors may not give it to you because it’s an herb.

I have not personally dealt with amatoxin poisoning but have read about it.

Hi , do You know The name of that lepiota mushroom . I was looking for info and i didnt find Any species that fit with The ones i ate.

The ones i ate has green gills as Chlorophyllum molybdites.

You Made me worry.
Now i'm feeling completely fine.

But i'm i'm the middle of nowwhere , in The jungle. Maybe tomorrow i can travel.


Thanks

I don’t know, they just suggested that it was some species.

If you are confident that it is Chlorophyllum molybdites, I am glad to hear. A quick search suggests Lepiota has white to cream spores and gills (rarely yellow). I cannot make an identification for you. But carrying milk thistle seed is probably a good idea when you are foraging. It’s always good to make sure the mushroom you are eating is not poisonous before trying it, too. I have eaten plants that are poisonous, but only as medicine (I am an herbalist) and in small quantities, and never the really toxic ones.

This article might be a helpful place to look if you have a positive ID for Chlorophyllum molybdites.
I've highlighted the mention of lepiotal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorophyllum_molybdites
Chlorophyllum molybdites, commonly known as the green-spored parasol,[1] green-gill parasol,[2] false parasol, green-spored lepiota and vomiter,

The most important take away in this discussion though is to get a positive ID first before tasting and especially before cooking them up!

It really does look a lot like Chlorophyllum molybdites from the photos,  and that species alone has sent plenty of people to the hospital with the exact symptoms you describe. The green gills are a strong clue, but, as others said, a few Lepiota species can look similar in the early stages.
Some toxins take time to cause internal damage before symptoms return.

I tried posting a warning a few days ago that eating some species of mushrooms from the Lepiota group contain amatoxins and eating them could lead to serious liver problems requiring immediate medical help, but after I edited the post for clarity a second time, it seems to have disappeared.

The Lepiota group contains hundreds of species, which fall into four different categories as far as edibility. Some species are choice edibles, some contain deadly amatoxins, some are of unknown edibility and some cause non-fatal gastrointestinal problems. The green-spored lepiota falls into the last category. In fact, Clorophyllum molybdites is the species responsible for the most mushroom poisonings in North America.

If the mushroom you ate had green spores/gills (which I did not see from the photos), then you probably had the green-spored lepiota, Chlorophyllum molybdites, also known as the vomiter. People get sick with vomiting or diarrhea, but survive. However, if you ate one of the species with white spores that also contain amatoxins, you will probably experience liver failure.

Ronaldo, you are playing Russian roulette with your life.  After identifying your mushrooms to be toxic, you ate them anyway. Same thing with your previous set of of posts- split-gill can cause serious illness as well. If you value your life, you'll stop eating wild mushrooms and get help.  You're lucky to be alive. This is my last warning. Be well my friend...

Hello people. I didn’t die. But these days were very crazy.
On the third day after eating those mushrooms, when I read M LJins  message and after making a research, I thought: maybe it was a deadly mushroom, one with amatoxins. The symptoms matched a little too well.

They said that on the third day liver failure began: pain, loss of lucidity, one or two days of agony… and then, death. And that day the diarrhea had almost disappeared. It was the third day.

The whole situation struck me deeply. Is existence really this fragile? One moment I had a future full of projects, and the next I was a stranger doomed to die alone in the middle of nowhere.

I wondered what I should do. Go to the hospital? I didn’t want to die connected to cold lights or surrounded by hurried voices. I preferred to die in the forest, alone, in silence.

Then I asked myself: what would Buddha do in my place? Would he observe his own pain? Was this an opportunity to practice Vipassana?

So I started putting my things in order, calmly. I cleaned the house. I bathed. I arranged my belongings thinking I would never touch them again. I said goodbye to the cats.

I went for a walk in the village. I entered a restaurant that had always seemed ugly to me, almost offensively ugly. But not that day. That day I discovered it was nice. I discovered there is beauty in ugliness. And I felt a deep sadness: I didn’t want to die. I felt I was leaving everything unfinished.

Thousands of thoughts went through my mind like a disordered swarm. Was that the mind approaching death?

And in the end… nothing happened. Nothing.

There was no liver failure, no pain, no final shadows, no agony, no death.

It felt like being reborn. A second breath. Suddenly life was full of opportunities again; there were paths, decisions, futures open.

A few days have passed, and I feel like I’ve returned to my normal self. Once again, ugly places look ugly to me, but I know it’s my perception, not them. Something in me was marked, like a small hidden glimmer in my memory.

It was a good experience. An unexpected teacher. Thank you, friends. I’m still processing what happened, but I think there is much to learn from this experience.

Ronaldo Montoya wrote:Hello people. I didn’t die.

I am VERY glad to see you posting again! I admit I was checking this thread for updates every day and hoping to see your name pop up again.

I totally sympathise on not wanting to go to hospital, too. I made a similar choice once when I began very obviously haemoragghing from the uterus. I'd been told that I had to go back to hospital if that happened, but I also knew that the physical effort of getting there was likely to destroy any hope of it spontaneously stopping again and that if I really was bleeding out I'd rather spend the time at home, so I called my boys to me and just kept very still and hoped. I'm still here, and very happily turning into an old crone!

Here's to old crones and old mushroomers!

Ronaldo Montoya wrote:  I think there is much to learn from this experience.

yes there is!
For example, 'don't eat unidentified mushrooms!'

I am glad you are still alive! It sounds like a transformative experience. I’m sorry for passing on an identification that didn’t turn out to be accurate and maybe should check next time.