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640 square ft. modified shed to cozy cabin

 
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I wanted a rustic farm building on my property. I ordered a large shed and spent a few years slowly constructing a rustic struture. I used reclaimed items where I could. Old doors from a 1930's house, turned them into pocket and barn doors. Wooden bleachers from a school that were going to a landfill. I plugged holes with wooden dowels, sanded and painted and used them for shiplap walls. I used old wood from a 1840's tobacco barn for ceiling trim. I researched many shed companies in my area and none of them would apply exterior house wrap, or insulate underneath the shed. So I had the shed brought in and placed on the usual blocks and tied down. I hired a guy to level and pack the soil down. Then I applied insulation under the shed, oh, what fun.
For the next year , on weekends, I worked inside the shed. I wanted it to sit for a while since it wasn't placed on a traditional foundation. I knew drywall would be installed in a few areas and wanted the shed to have time to settle. I partitioned a few walls, installed the pocket and barn doors, painting and flooring installed. the following spring, I framed the shed foundation added insulation board, tacked up mesh wire and applied stucco. Inside, ran the electrical, plumbing. built/installed kitchen cabinets. Installed rockwool insulation, added a bathroom with a shower and sink. I used my old, reclaimed kitchen sink my wife had saved when we purchased our old farm house 35 years ago, after a remodel.
In December, we applied drywall on the ceilings and bathroom. We built a small hearth for a small Jotul wood stove and installed. When spring came we added a 10 foot overhang all the way around the shed, I knew I wanted to do this before the shed was even delivered. The shed came with a 50 year smart side warranty. My wife picked a nice shade of green. BUT WITH MOST SHED COMPANIES THEIR QUALITY CONTROL IS SUBPAR. I won't go into details with the things I had to repair. After the wrap around 10 ft. roof, we added decks.
My wife was delighted that we were 90% through with this project.
Nope.I added gutters and installed a Daiken mini split. I removed all 7 windows and purchased/installed insulated windows. I added 1/2 inch insulation board and applied 12' oc t1-11. I hated the smart side siding. Then I added battens. I stained the t1-11 and have to wait on the battens because they are fresh from the sawmill. Now I need to stain the decks and a few minor things and I'm finished. Whew!
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Is it a steel framed shed or a timber framed shed to start with.
The outcome is good, well done.
 
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John C Daley wrote:Is it a steel framed shed or a timber framed shed to start with.
The outcome is good, well done.



It is a timber structure.
 
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Jesse Crabtree wrote:I wanted a rustic farm building on my property. I ordered a large shed and spent a few years slowly constructing a rustic struture. I used reclaimed items where I could. Old doors from a 1930's house, turned them into pocket and barn doors. Wooden bleachers from a school that were going to a landfill. I plugged holes with wooden dowels, sanded and painted and used them for shiplap walls. I used old wood from a 1840's tobacco barn for ceiling trim. I researched many shed companies in my area and none of them would apply exterior house wrap, or insulate underneath the shed. So I had the shed brought in and placed on the usual blocks and tied down. I hired a guy to level and pack the soil down. Then I applied insulation under the shed, oh, what fun.
For the next year , on weekends, I worked inside the shed. I wanted it to sit for a while since it wasn't placed on a traditional foundation. I knew drywall would be installed in a few areas and wanted the shed to have time to settle. I partitioned a few walls, installed the pocket and barn doors, painting and flooring installed. the following spring, I framed the shed foundation added insulation board, tacked up mesh wire and applied stucco. Inside, ran the electrical, plumbing. built/installed kitchen cabinets. Installed rockwool insulation, added a bathroom with a shower and sink. I used my old, reclaimed kitchen sink my wife had saved when we purchased our old farm house 35 years ago, after a remodel.
In December, we applied drywall on the ceilings and bathroom. We built a small hearth for a small Jotul wood stove and installed. When spring came we added a 10 foot overhang all the way around the shed, I knew I wanted to do this before the shed was even delivered. The shed came with a 50 year smart side warranty. My wife picked a nice shade of green. BUT WITH MOST SHED COMPANIES THEIR QUALITY CONTROL IS SUBPAR. I won't go into details with the things I had to repair. After the wrap around 10 ft. roof, we added decks.
My wife was delighted that we were 90% through with this project.
Nope.I added gutters and installed a Daiken mini split. I removed all 7 windows and purchased/installed insulated windows. I added 1/2 inch insulation board and applied 12' oc t1-11. I hated the smart side siding. Then I added battens. I stained the t1-11 and have to wait on the battens because they are fresh from the sawmill. Now I need to stain the decks and a few minor things and I'm finished. Whew!
Here are a few pics.

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Thanks for sharing your finished cozy cabin.  It looks nice and comfy.
 
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How was the quality of the prefab shed? Ive read review that are mixed on the build quality.
 
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John Rains wrote:How was the quality of the prefab shed? Ive read review that are mixed on the build quality.


The build itself was ok. Proper headers over windows and doors. Floor joists were good but other things like a few nails in the roof were at an angle and I found one that was loose and not  attached in a  rafter. Numerous nails in the siding were driven in too far. The biggest flaw was the windows. They were just placed into the opening and trim placed around them. No screws or nails holding them in place. I should have just got them to cut out for the windows like I did for the rear double doors. I installed insulated windows in the shed/cabin.
Overall I was happy with the purchase. It saved me a lot of time not having to build the cabin from scratch but beware of quality issues with these portable buildings.
 
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If you don't mind, would you please share the brand, and a general price? Folks on this forum are often searching for quick builds or start up shelters so could surely use your experience
 
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Rico Loma wrote:If you don't mind, would you please share the brand, and a general price? Folks on this forum are often searching for quick builds or start up shelters so could surely use your experience


The manufacturer of the portable building was Graceland. The cost was $19,000 including delivery. It is the largest one they build ,16x40 and was supposed to be built on site. I was told they couldn't find/keep guys to build on site so a house moving company was called in to deliver. That added a $1,000 to the price. 14x40 is the largest D.O.T will allow on the roads around here.
 
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