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I was watching a you tube video on the first hot air balloons on nature's lost vault. A thought came while watching it has anybody tried to use a rocket stove to propel a hot air balloon?
 
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Hot air balloons use liquid propane to power them.

I feel a rocket stove would require too much fuel and would weight down the balloon.

Hey you are not the only person to have this thought:

https://permies.com/t/39501/Rocket-Stove-Powered-Hot-Air
 
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So the Montgolfier brothers used wood to heat their balloons, and had issues in an early flight with sparks threatening to burn the balloon.

A J-tube rocket of lightweight insulating material could provide more heat for the fuel used, and with full combustion may give less danger of sparks. A complication would be inflating the balloon to start with, as the rocket would not be able to blow hot air into the flattened balloon; not sure how modern balloonists do this, with just a fan or with the propane flame directed sideways...
 
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One of the main challenges would probably be the low energy density, as Anne was commenting. The following graph shows that quite obviously.

For the same energy you need almost 3 times the mass of wood compared to natural gas. On the other hand you're not bringing a pressurized container...
 
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I suppose it depends on the kind of wood fuel, too. Would charcoal be more heat-producing for its weight?
 
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It looks like charcoal is about twice as energy dense as wood, so that would be a step in the right direction - Wikipedia gives a value of 30 MJ/kg for charcoal's specific energy content.
 
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