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Does anybody know what this is?

 
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I labeled it as Black Locust, but obviously it isn't.  Google AI says is some sort of Rumex, but I never bought any sorrel seeds.  Very confused.
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maybe an arugula?
I grow a wild variety that looks somewhat similar when young.....

Arugula would taste peppery even when young.

Maybe you could list the possibilities of what was planted😊

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Welcome to Permies!

It looks a little like woad to me, the blue dye plant. A little.

Virginia Bluebells? Maybe? Could be in the Borage family. Actually, the veins do make me think that may be so.

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It looks a little like woad to me, the blue dye plant. A little.  



it does!

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Hi.  Thanks, all, for your comments.  
I only planted trees. Hard to remember, as it was winter.  And the names on the labels I made have washed off.  Except for this one.  The "Black Locust."
Never bought any bluebell, arugula or woad seeds.  This is very bizarre.  They're growing quite well, whatever they are. The leaves have a thick, almost succulent texture.  I'll taste one.  But how could it be arugula?  Or either of those others...?
 
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Please don't taste one !
With such a vague idea of what it is, you could really hurt yourself.

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Ok, William.   I won't.  ðŸ˜Š
 
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Hmm, Anne I'm not sure what it is either. It is probably time to give the seedlings more space though, maybe the growth habit in a week or so will give more clues.
They look more like a herbacious plant than a tree at the moment, I wonder if someone got the seeds mixed up. One or two of the plants look greener, like a lettuce perhaps.

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Thanks, Nancy.  Up-potting them was the next step.  Although i wanted to find out if they had rap roots or fibrous first...
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Judith Browning wrote:maybe an arugula?
I grow a wild variety that looks somewhat similar when young.....


Yes, or maybe crown daisy (chrysanthemum), Japanese edible versions look a bit like that and have a thick and waxy texture.

I agree this looks more like a leafy green than a tree. Is there any chance this is downwind of someplace where there were garden vegetables flowering?
 
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No.  They were in a sealed mini greenhouse all winter.  Plus, planted in rows.
 
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wow! then i think you're a victim of bait and switch seeds!! i guess you'll have to wait and see what kind of bird these little fuzzy chicks grow up to be.
 
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Waiting until it blooms or goes to seed can help ID that plant.

There are  lot of plants in this world that have similar leaves.

I suspect that it is a native plant or something that grows in the area and just came up.

Might be a nice "free" plant.  Does not look like a tree.

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what about your potting soil?
Mine often has odd things popping up from my old potting mixes.

But....if you began with a sterile potting mix and bought all of the tree seeds...they were labeled in their original packaging?

So planted them over the winter and they stratified....cold greenhouse or heated?

do you know the company they were bought from or was it an individual?

Can you guess at the likely trees ...maybe they were for your growing zone and permaculture recommended?

I love a mystery😊

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I like a mystery too, but this is a bit annoying.
I get "free" lambs quarters, frequently, from the river dirt i dig up.  But not planted in rows!  Ha ha!  And not planted densely like this.
No, I planted them, alright but dang!  My mind is gone!
 
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Instead of tasting you could crush and smell a leaf. I wouldn’t think arugula though.

At this point they could be almost anything. I don’t think they are Rumex either.

Whitetop mustard another possibility?

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Your guess is aa good as mine...
 
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