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Anyone else toss their cell phones for good?

 
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Love my Trifield meter! I used to hang out at Less EMF in Albany, NY. He had a whole range of equipment.  I simultaneously spent years technical writing ... for GlobalSpec.com, Biophotonics International, Photonic Spectra, Semiconductor News, GE Global Research. I was writing for the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Lighting Research Center when they were developing LEDs for cars and CFLs for houses... I did a lot of writing on so many subjects, interchangeable with "wifi" and "EMF". Thanks to God, I have learned a few things.

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Jules Harrell wrote:Yes! A kindred spirit! I have a trifield meter and have measured the EMF from cell phones along with many common household products, such as refrigerators, electric stoves etc. I'm sooo glad to meet you thank you for this. Wow, my faith is restored! Jules



Hi Jules,
Yes, nice to connect here on permies! I've had my Trifield meter for more than 25 yrs! I bring it everywhere and always ask if those I visit would like to see how their living space, bedrooms and work-spots fare when we go on a measuring tour. It can be very eye opening.

Bau Biologie is a hobby of mine. I wish more people understood the true effects of many "modern day conveniences".
-Jeanne

 
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When you all say you have a land line, do you mean a true, wired lanline, or a VOIP line?
We have one VOIP line that goes out when we lose electricity, and a real landline that ATT has warned us they'll probably stop supporting. We need the landline so that in a hurricane, when electricity is lost, our families can reach us.

ATT charges so much for a landline that, to keep costs down, we only have the line, no extras such as call waiting, or even a long distance option.

We have cell-phones that we keep in RFID blocking bags when not in use (for privacy as well as EMF concerns). I think I may have made 2 calls in 5 years. Gary uses his almost exclusively when he visits his mother in another state.

We decided to eschew cell phones when we saw the rudeness, self-absorbtion, and addiction they were encouraging.

I think they're a scourge on civilization, no matter their convenience.
 
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Thank you for this post! We have a DSL line so if electricity goes out our phones go out. The phones are not the old fashioned dial type, otherwise who knows they might work. My husband has his smart phone, my daughter has her flip phone as she also deleted the smart phone. I love what you are doing with the bags YES! I recommend a trifield meter to really get a measurement on the EMF that everything puts out. New wireless appliances such as stoves must have some amount right? I agree with all you have said, and you didn't get addicted. Yes, a scourge. AGREE!

Cara Campbell wrote:When you all say you have a land line, do you mean a true, wired lanline, or a VOIP line?
We have one VOIP line that goes out when we lose electricity, and a real landline that ATT has warned us they'll probably stop supporting. We need the landline so that in a hurricane, when electricity is lost, our families can reach us.

ATT charges so much for a landline that, to keep costs down, we only have the line, no extras such as call waiting, or even a long distance option.

We have cell-phones that we keep in RFID blocking bags when not in use (for privacy as well as EMF concerns). I think I may have made 2 calls in 5 years. Gary uses his almost exclusively when he visits his mother in another state.

We decided to eschew cell phones when we saw the rudeness, self-absorbtion, and addiction they were encouraging.

I think they're a scourge on civilization, no matter their convenience.

 
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I ditched the cell phone 3 years ago and have never looked back.  I have a landline.  I remember the days when we would go out shopping or whatever with NO cell phone and when I ditched it, I worried about the what if's.  But that soon passed and I thought, well if I break down on the road, I will put it in God's hands and not get all flustered about it.  But I am 74 and only broke down on the road once in my whole life and that was a flat tire.  Fortunately, I was able to keep driving my 2003 Toyota Prius on a flat tire to a gas station for a repair.  Funny thing is, I did not even know it was flat as I was driving on the freeway, that's how well this car handled a flat tire.  I only found out because the person next to me signaled I had a flat.  Back to the cell phone.  It would be wist to stay away from these addictive beast system devices.  If technology can blow them up, then it is not worth the risk.  I suspect a satelite was used to blow up the batteries, but maybe they were compromised in some way from the factory.  Either way, it just shows us what the powers that be can do if they want to.  I see in the comments how hooked people are to these things and that was probably the intention from the get go.  I will never ever have one of them and if I want pictures I can always use my Nikon camera.  I have my life back without that thing and I can now give the people around me my full attention and not be distracted by a cell phone.
 
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Kate, thank you so much for this! Yes, I feel the same way, free! And yes, they are meant to be addictive and very successful at it. Just ask anyone if they'd ever give up their cell phones for good hahaha. Blessings upon you. We older folks lived for many years just fine without cell phones. Better in fact. Thank you again for your insight. Jules

Kate Calla wrote:I ditched the cell phone 3 years ago and have never looked back.  I have a landline.  I remember the days when we would go out shopping or whatever with NO cell phone and when I ditched it, I worried about the what if's.  But that soon passed and I thought, well if I break down on the road, I will put it in God's hands and not get all flustered about it.  But I am 74 and only broke down on the road once in my whole life and that was a flat tire.  Fortunately, I was able to keep driving my 2003 Toyota Prius on a flat tire to a gas station for a repair.  Funny thing is, I did not even know it was flat as I was driving on the freeway, that's how well this car handled a flat tire.  I only found out because the person next to me signaled I had a flat.  Back to the cell phone.  It would be wist to stay away from these addictive beast system devices.  If technology can blow them up, then it is not worth the risk.  I suspect a satelite was used to blow up the batteries, but maybe they were compromised in some way from the factory.  Either way, it just shows us what the powers that be can do if they want to.  I see in the comments how hooked people are to these things and that was probably the intention from the get go.  I will never ever have one of them and if I want pictures I can always use my Nikon camera.  I have my life back without that thing and I can now give the people around me my full attention and not be distracted by a cell phone.

 
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No cell reception bars near the house
Yesterday my copper line was forcibly "upgraded" to fibre, but they are giving away free unlimited Internet with it, not sure how I feel about that yet, so here I am catching up on most of a year's worth of permies

In fact, I do agree a phone can make a decent snapshot camera, and I have a bunch of old phones ready to jailbreak this winter: make some into wifi phones as well in rugged waterproof cases so I can leave them around outdoors in case the landline rings

I have a perverted wish to turn them all into dumb phones that German sausage fingers can use even if they don't have real keyboards

(Jailbreaking is legal in Canada but I don't know about elsewhere: you use a utility to blow away the operating system so you can install your own, and it's easy to do on 2016 and older iPhones, the challenge being finding decent cases)
 
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70 years old and never owned one...and never will.
 
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If I tossed my cell phone, I would be up a creek without a paddle ...

That is our only means of communication as land lines are no longer available.

Today, I told DirecTv that I only use my cell phone to make and receive phone calls.

Most calls I do not even answer because they just want to buy property that I don't want to sell.
 
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James Louis Smith wrote:70 years old and never owned one...and never will.


That's what my father said too. Heading out alone on a remote property with a chainsaw to drop trees and buck up firewood. I gave him my old flip cell phone and paid the account out of my pocket so he could call 911. Took a year or two, but he came to see the utility of the tool, and not being tied to a landline. Had one in his shirt pocket for the next 15 years.
 
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Well, all these months have gone by, and still I am doing just fine without a cell phone. Incredibly, I can navigate the countryside minus GPS. YUP. And, I may not even have a CD player compatible vehicle (Toyota took CD playing off their list of must haves) so instead, I have my mini boom box and play CDs while I travel. The landline we installed at the bare minimum cheapest cost doesn't even have caller ID and I survive somehow. Do I miss having a small machine that is hooked into the matrix of my mind, body, soul and spirit? Uh NO.

Now what's interesting is that I NEVER see cell phones addressed even among the most "woke" (in a natural not liberal way) communities. Or forums. Or books. Or talk shows. NO ONE is talking about the negative effects of cell phones isn't that STRANGE? I think it is.

Anyone out there want to share their experiences with other people not having cell phones? Where are they besides here? Thank GOD for "here" by the way.

Jules Horsewalker (on Facebook. Never said I quit social media)
 
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Fascinating thread.  And comforting to know there are folks like me out there.  I remember when cell phones came out.  I didn't like them because I'm not a big fan of technology to begin with.  But, when I saw they were getting cheaper than land lines, I got one.  In fact, when everyone heard I got rid of my land line to have a cell phone, they couldn't believe it!  Now it's the norm.  But, I treat my cell phone like a land line.  It stays home.  I don't answer calls I don't recognize.  I have ZERO apps and have everything that can be deleted deleted.  I've gone through every setting on my phone as deep as I could find them and secured it as much as possible.  

Soon, I'm relocating and building my first (and only ever) home.  I will be ON the grid but the house will also be designed to be fully functional and efficient as an OFF grid house, too.  (I don't need stuff like TVs.  I got rid of that permanently in the 90s.  And I've never owned a microwave.)  When it comes to phones, I did my research.  Land lines will soon go the way of the dodo bird.  So, I came up with a plan:  I'll have two cell phones.  The first one will be a simple Nokia flip phone for every day, casual use; the phone number I give others.  No apps.  No internet.  The second phone will be a smart phone that I will keep at home for private business needs, like banking or paying bills or anything else that might require an app or the internet.  That phone will be kept in an RFID pouch, in a drawer somewhere until I need to use it.  Then back in the pouch it goes.  

My laptop?  Same thing.  I'll bring it out when I need it and pouch it away when I don't.  Once I get moved and settled, I intend to live life offline as much as humanly possible.  It's not the natural order of things.  Just like cities aren't.  To me, cities are for driving around to avoid going into them except for emergencies and to stock up at Costco (for example) so my homebody behind can stay home!

It gives me hope for the world to know that there are others who are like-minded!
 
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James Bridger wrote:I use a flip phone.  I had a smart phone for a couple years and found myself spending 2-3 hours a day on it wasting time. I realized one day......imagine what I could get done with 2-3 extra hours a day. I love it and never want to go back. Except music. I miss having good music whenever I want it.



Could be my post. I agree. The music and audiobooks!
 
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