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Thekla McDaniels wrote:That is a bitter sweet story Phil, and I am glad you had the support you needed to get the ruling that allowed you to continue.
I am sad, too. Sad for the current culture of dominance pollution and exploitation, and how tenuous is your right to pursue the style of living that not only feels right to you, but is better in a multitude of ways and has present and future beneficial consequences for people and organisms far distant from your plot.
One of the reasons I participate in this forum, and teach what I know to people where ever I can is to establish more credibility for something other than the exploitation- dominance- pollution mentality, which I believe is a travesty against humanity and all the earth. I also believe that the exploitation dominance pollution mentality is based on fear and a desire for control and predictability. I think it is the degree of fear in those who hold to those ideas that makes the ideas so deeply entrenched, and those who adhere to them so ready to go to name calling and hostilities rather than a rational discussion and exploration of the the issue at hand.
I celebrate your small victory. Thanks for the courage of conviction to follow through. And thanks for telling us how it all went down.
Thekla
Tyler Ludens wrote:Phil you are a hero! You have paved the way for anyone in your community to make a food forest, or even nearby communities with similar bylaws! By your own personal work and example you have potentially changed the present and the future of your entire district! That is true power, and you should be proud!
I hope that maybe I made a little crack in the foundation here, but I think it's going to take a lot more hammering away to create real change.
John Polk wrote:
I hope that maybe I made a little crack in the foundation here, but I think it's going to take a lot more hammering away to create real change.
Each and every one of these victories, regardless how small they may seem, are crucial steps in breaking down the existing paradigm that "If your yard doesn't look exactly like your neighbor's yard, you are in violation."
Too many of these cases are happening around the country. These cases must be fought if we truly wish to be 'free'.
If my neighbor is not assisting me with my mortgage, or property tax bills, what right does he have to dictate what I do or don't grow on my property. Owning a piece of property should grant one the right to reasonable use of the property. I object to huge green lawns that look like an exclusive country club, but I don't tell the owners that their use of the land needs to be changed...it's their land.
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Phil Williams wrote:
Tyler Ludens wrote:Phil you are a hero! You have paved the way for anyone in your community to make a food forest, or even nearby communities with similar bylaws! By your own personal work and example you have potentially changed the present and the future of your entire district! That is true power, and you should be proud!
Tyler,
That's really nice of you to say, but I'm not sure that I accomplished much more than saving my own hide. One of my neighbors told the board that they should embrace permaculture for the entire township. The board was okay with letting me continue but one board member said, "If we let everyone do this, people will let their weeds grow and then say it's permaculture."
I hope that maybe I made a little crack in the foundation here, but I think it's going to take a lot more hammering away to create real change.
Thanks Again,
Phil
Rose Pinder wrote: Did they find in favour for you against their own rules? Or are their own rules flexible enough to allow a permaculture management system?
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Rose Pinder wrote:
I also was thinking you were a hero while I was reading, even before I knew the outcome. Well done. I understand that sense of nothing afterwards, but what you have done is very important in supporting change.
Is the case a matter of public record? Will this then be able to be used by others who end up with complaints made against them?
"If we let everyone do this, people will let their weeds grow and then say it's permaculture."
The easy solution to that is that the authorities need to have expertise in permaculture. Their building consent compliance people can tell the difference between a building that is constructed properly and one that is not, so why can they not learn the skills to assess permaculture?
One thing I am not clear about. Did they find in favour for you against their own rules? Or are their own rules flexible enough to allow a permaculture management system?
They ruled that my entire property is being maintained as a garden, and is therefore allowed to have plants...
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John Polk wrote:There is a national one at National Wildlife Federation
And here in Washington, we have Washington Dept of Fish & Wildlife
Most states have similar programs.
These often intimidate lower level local officials.
Phil Williams wrote:
I wonder if they have any legal power to supercede property maintenance codes. At one point I looked into preserving my land as a farm property, but doing so I was told would not protect me from the codes.
John Polk wrote:
I hope that maybe I made a little crack in the foundation here, but I think it's going to take a lot more hammering away to create real change.
Each and every one of these victories, regardless how small they may seem, are crucial steps in breaking down the existing paradigm that "If your yard doesn't look exactly like your neighbor's yard, you are in violation."
Too many of these cases are happening around the country. These cases must be fought if we truly wish to be 'free'.
If my neighbor is not assisting me with my mortgage, or property tax bills, what right does he have to dictate what I do or don't grow on my property. Owning a piece of property should grant one the right to reasonable use of the property. I object to huge green lawns that look like an exclusive country club, but I don't tell the owners that their use of the land needs to be changed...it's their land.
Jay Grace wrote:How about the "Right to Farm Act"?
From what I understand. In a round about way you can not be denied your right to grow food for yourself or to sell.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/homesteading-and-livestock/sustainable-farming/right-to-farm-act-zmgz13aszsto.aspx
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Jay Grace wrote:How about the "Right to Farm Act"?
From what I understand. In a round about way you can not be denied your right to grow food for yourself or to sell.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/homesteading-and-livestock/sustainable-farming/right-to-farm-act-zmgz13aszsto.aspx
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