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I was wondering if some ponds stocked with bass (or other sport fish) would likely be as good an income producer as grazing cattle? What do you think?

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These two creatures require vastly different habitats. If it were easy to maintain a pond, with no water shortage, I would expect fish to produce more value per acre.

Catch-and-release is a much simpler proposition with fish than it would be with cattle, should you choose to invite Sportsmen to join you.
 
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I think the start-up and maintenance costs might be less for fish than for cows. My neighbor across the road feeds his cows year-round on purchased hay, and needs a large tractor to move the bales. He has quite an infrastructure of pens and feedlots also. I should think the handling equipment for fish would be less than for cows.

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I imagine it depends on what sort of environ you're starting with. A large pond already in place is a fish system of some kind waiting to happen.
 
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Size of pond? Duck hunting, dove hunting, fishing, deer hunting would cover about the whole year.

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Water purity is an issue , particularly if your neighbours keep high concentrations of cows

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Most fish farms spend quite a bit on aeration, filtration, and pumping water.

Why not do both?

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I'm not talking about a fish farm, I'm talking about a pond, or multiple ponds. And of course there's no reason you couldn't have both fish and cows if you had the money to invest in two enterprises.

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How big a pond or ponds? In acre feet?

1 acre foot being the volume of water required to cover the area of an acre 1 foot deep.

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