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Rene Nijstad
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To add your location follow this link: Permies Worldwide Map - zoom in on the map on your location as far as possible - place the marker - edit the text of the marker: replace "point #" with the name you use on permies (so people can search for your profile on permies) - add a picture and further comments if you like - click on "save" - done If you encounter problems, you can click on my name and send me a purple moosage. Entries without a name will be deleted.
 
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Bump to top
 
Ryan Sharon
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Added and bumped!

So, is this going to be a sticky post or do we just keep bumping it?
 
Sebastian Köln
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Isn't one map enough?

https://permacultureglobal.org/users
 
Casie Becker
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That certainly looks like a very useful map. I know it would have been a good answer to many people who were posting looking for professional help with their permaculture designs. Until your post here, I wasn't aware of it at all.

I still like the thought of a map that encourages those of us who are regionally close to expand on relationships that we've developed here. To me each spot on this map (which is being developed) is connected to an individual who is already part of my community. That means more to me than just agreeing with a general philosophy.
 
Donald Kenning
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I have a small problem with this map. I commented on this on the other comment string.

I really, really, really like the idea of a map. Just not this one.

There are many reasons why. Most of that deals with control of information.

Without logging onto permies, I was able to put a pin in my location on the map. I could be anyone, not just a member of this forum (with an account and everything).

Anyone (perhaps a troll) can move my location. I can go right now and move people location, after all, my location had been moved since yesterday. All it takes in one person to severely wreck this map (troll or not). 

Too much information. Many people would be OK with sharing what state they live in, but not their physical address. If I only shared that, would I put a pin in Olympia (our state capital in Washington State). A location filter would need to be installed on this map for those who do not want to give too much information. I think it is interesting that Paul Weaton's pin is on International Gaming Technology in Missula, Mt.

Too much information. People can put in multiple locations. This may not be a big problem but maybe they could do a change of address when they move.

Names are not clickable. One of the points of this is to be able to contact like minded people in our local area or where we travel. This is a great forum to send a purple moosage without giving out real e-mail addresses. On the map, I could see a name, then I would have to go to permies to search for the name (this is a real hassle if the name is not connected to a permies account).


Needs to be more controlled. I am forced to conclude that the map is a weak substitute for a map of members of permies.com. I still believe this should be some code implemented by the site itself for a "map" view-able on the permies site. Sorry. I really, really, really like the idea.
 
Rene Nijstad
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Sebastian Köln wrote:Isn't one map enough?

https://permacultureglobal.org/users


I have a profile there too. I used it to document the start of our activities, until at some point I could not post pictures anymore. I messaged the people running the site, but nobody replied, so i stopped trying. I think it's good that we now have a map at permies instead. At least things appear to be more active here.
 
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Donald Kenning wrote:I have a small problem with this map. I commented on this on the other comment string.

I really, really, really like the idea of a map. Just not this one.

There are many reasons why. Most of that deals with control of information.

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Needs to be more controlled. I am forced to conclude that the map is a weak substitute for a map of members of permies.com. I still believe this should be some code implemented by the site itself for a "map" view-able on the permies site. Sorry. I really, really, really like the idea.


Hi Donald,

Google maps gives 3 options, either the 'owner' of the map is the only one who can edit it, or invited users can (I think this option can be programmed into the permits.com site, no idea how easy or difficult that is) or the map is public and anyone can add a location. I'm not aware that other people can move things.

I'll check it out later, my tablet is nearly out of batteries and we have a power failure going on right now, so I cannot charge it.
 
Sebastian Köln
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What is the function that this map fulfills, that wasn't fullfilled before?

I am throwing some out here:
- Interested, where a particular permie lives? (Most of them write it down, otherwhise PM)
- overview of people doing permaculture? (permacultureglobal suits probably better)

Control of data is another issue… at least some barrier against manipulation might be useful.

Then there is a difference between a) Permies and b) Permaculture global:
a) allowes real sounding names; b) requires full and correct name (which makes sense if you want to market yourself…)
a) has higher standards in privacy and moderation; b) has more public data

I am sure that both sites are needed. But trying to move them closer, may actually not be useful. (Users on google-maps isn't really good when does not want to share too much.)

As Donald Kenning wrote, the idea of a map is great. The purpose needs some thought tough.

EDIT: I admit that the critique to the person realizing this isn't nice. The discussion could have taken place before.
 
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Donald Kenning wrote:I have a small problem with this map. I commented on this on the other comment string.


Too much information. Many people would be OK with sharing what state they live in, but not their physical address. If I only shared that, would I put a pin in Olympia (our state capital in Washington State). A location filter would need to be installed on this map for those who do not want to give too much information. I think it is interesting that Paul Weaton's pin is on International Gaming Technology in Missula, Mt.



This is actually a very valid safety concern in my mind, but if you edit your post, it will list only as much information as you want it to. I just have my city and state, rather than my address. I see at least one person there has only listed a web page, and another who has nothing but a name attached to their pin. If you're posting a pin, carefully consider how much personal info you're comfortable displaying and then edit accordingly.
 
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Hmm, tried to do the map but didn't seem to work for me. Saw no marker when I tried to follow the instructions.
 
Abbey Battle
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Devin Lavign wrote:Hmm, tried to do the map but didn't seem to work for me. Saw no marker when I tried to follow the instructions.


I had the same but my marker is there. I think you need to log out and back in again.
 
Rene Nijstad
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Power is back, so I could check out some things. I think this was an interesting attempt, but it indeed is not going to be a very good option,

Google maps only allows few ways to access the map. It's either view only, or view and edit. Edit in this case means that anyone who has the link to the map can edit everything. Including add layers, change entries, move things, etc. I checked it before on another browser, but that browser did not function properly, so I misunderstood that and thought things could not be changed.

I personally think this was an interesting attempt, but that if we want a map at permies.com it indeed could be more controlled and working within the boundaries of this site itself. Then it can also be linked to peoples profile.

What I did like to see today was how nicely we're spread out over the planet. Even although most permies live in the USA...

I think it's up to Paul and the team to decide what they would like to do now.

 
Rene Nijstad
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I decided to change the access to the map to 'view only' so we can avoid people to change what is already there. It can stay online like this as an example of what it could look like.

Paul or any other steward can let me know if they like the map to be opened again, or stay in 'view only' or be deleted.
 
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Rene, can you edit your earlier post about adding to the map so that people reading from the top don't try to add to it. Thanks.
 
Rene Nijstad
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rowan eisner wrote:Rene, can you edit your earlier post about adding to the map so that people reading from the top don't try to add to it. Thanks.


Hi Rowan, as soon as I edit the first post the image disappears, because the software rejects HTML codes if you're not an administrator, so I'll edit my second post instead. Thanks for pointing this out!
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