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Paul, is there some other way of dealing with this other than locking? I really want peoples input on my questions as it is really important to me. Im open to suggestions. Thanks.
 
                    
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Pauls comfort zone is showing

 
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Well,  I was gonna let it stand, thinking that folks would try to keep things in a space I am comfortable with.  But now I get the impression that some folks either don't know what my comfort zone is, or they don't care.  And stuff was flying in so fast that it seemed like I would spend too much of my day deleting stuff.  And then, to keep people from causing more problems in the future I would have to try to explain to each author that posted something I didn't like, why I didn't like it.  And frankly, I would rather be writing new articles or cranking out new videos.

Back to your question:  I suppose one way is to take it to another forum.  Or to a mailing list.  Lawrence London's permaculture mailing list is really good.  And the PRI forums are really good.  The homesteadingtoday forums are really good - although a hot topic like this would probably get folks way hotter than the thread here got. 

I appreciate that you started it in MD and that you asked folks to keep it smooth.  I am willing to try this again - but I'm afraid I'll just end up closing it again.  Or having to delete stuff.  Or do something. 

My position on this topic is that I think there is a lot of justification for concern.  And folks were stating absolutes that suggested that my position is stupid.  That doesn't make me a happy camper. 

The key to this issue is that there is a lot of data conflict.  I remember reading something about how the rate of autism in vaccinated kids the same as in unvaccinated.  Thus, zero difference.  Therefore, it would make sense if the mother I mentioned - her kid were to have autism before the shot and after.  The autism thing would be the same.  But clearly, something changed.  Something big.  And there are three other moms I have talked to that have been through the same thing.  The label they stick on the problem is "autism" and I have to wonder if autism is more of a symptom than the real problem. 

I guess I'm feeling a bit like I'm not allowed to have an opinion unless I am able to utterly prove it as fact.  Emerson makes a lot of good points - and about half of them I have a response to, but I feel like this is something I really don't want to get into and, at the same time, I feel like if I don't prove my position, then I am clearly an idiot. 

I would prefer to be in a position of where I can step out of a conversation that is not my thing and feel like people respect my position although they might try to persuade me to change my mind.


 
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Well if you are willing to unlock it I can make a petition to everyone to stay on topic...afterall it was not a post about proving anything...just about people sharing their experiences. If someone jumps in and goes off topic again, then lock it. Id be grateful for a second try.

I really don't care what people think about my opinions or positions so none of that bothered me, but it is your site and your call.

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Rob, how about this - start a second thread on the same topic - and in your opening, point out what happend in the last thread - so we're giving it another try.

We'll see how it goes. 

One of the things I like about having a thread like this in the "meaningless drivel" forum is that nobody can complain about anything being deleted.  Because they can only be upset if they cared - and if they care, it must not be meaningless drivel - and therefore, should not be in the forum.

 
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True dat, thanks very much.
 
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paul wheaton wrote:
I guess I'm feeling a bit like I'm not allowed to have an opinion unless I am able to utterly prove it as fact.



I hope we can have some opinions which are based on aesthetics, not facts.  "I think donuts are delicious" is an opinion based on aesthetics.  It may be a fact that I think donuts are delicious, but I can't prove it. 

 
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Disproving would be far more interesting - the first step would be to demonstrate ample mind reading ability.

 
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