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Can anyone identify this item?

 
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Your help would be very useful.

 
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Any chance we could see it disasembled? it seems to be made for fluids of some kind. almost looks like can my buddies use for drip lines to back lght fires, but I dont think thats it. it lacks a pump mechanism and doesnt seem to be made for high temp. and no shoulder harness.  I cant get an idea of scale from the pic either- could be a few gallons or a quart for all I can see...

whats inside?
 
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Here are the exploded views and hopefully the stuff in the background will give some sense of scale.






 
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Does the pouring spout deliver from the large interior cavity or the space bewteen the inner and outer wall?

Can you tell if it is plain  galvanized steel or galvalume? Painted?

Does it hold water?
 
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I wonder if it is a water heater. I've seen small stainless double walled kettles that looked similar where a fire was built in the center to heat the water.
 
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That's along the lines of why I wonder if it is galvanized or something else. Galvanized should not be ised at high temps like a fire should provide as the zinc can be off gassed and that is bad to breath.

 
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I think robert is right. That is along the lines of what I've been thinking. IF the spout connects to the space between the inner and out walls of the main unit, it is used to heat water, or other liquid, by building a fire in the large main chamber. There's a smoke stack and the smaller tube is the air intake.
 
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There does seem to be a double wall but neither spout connects to it. There is just the one internal space.
 
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Not sure I follow... If something was poured out of the spout where would it be coming from?

 
                              
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looks like a chuffa (water heater) but with the heating element missing
 
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hehee! I see the spout now

definily a pocket rocket water heater
 
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How would you go about useing it?
 
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If it is indeed a water heater, and that does seem to make sense, then it looks to me like the fuel would be placed into the container and the top would be placed over it. The short tube would be in a raised position sitting on top of the fuel at the beginning of the burn, feeding air to the uppermost fuel. As the fuel burns down the short tube would sink into fresh fuel until it sunk to its full length. It does not look like the short tube reaches the very bottom so it would theoretically be leaving some slower burning coals at the end of the fuel burn.

This raises an interesting thought as it relates to rocket mass heaters and the ability to pre-stock large amounts of fuel. Could this same type of self lowering inlet air duct be incorporated into a rocket mass heater thereby allowing a larger stock of wood enabling less frequent feeding?
 
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I'm going to correct myself. It appears the air inlet tube is always inside rather than raised and fuel is continually added through the air inlet.
 
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A solid fuel Smugge pot, and the water in the chamber cools the unit so it can be placed on the ground?
 
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