Elfriede B wrote:
of course the higher raised toilet is more convenient for older people, who have problems with their knees and getting up from a squatting position.
True, but we should ask ourselves where those knee problems come from. And eliminate the causes. Taking a shit is connected to what we put in our mouth also, so i will point out one of my favorite quotes that goeas along all natural habits we've lost:
"Unless people can become natural people, there can be neither natural farming nor natural food." - Masanobu Fukuoka
1. Eating with hands without the use of forks, spoons ecc. Since the liver directly starts making the right gastric juices when fingers feel the food, liver is very sensible, and
2. After the meal sitting in the 'vajrasana' position for 10min helps to direct the food in mixing the juices produced, then finally squatting the next morning to finish the cycle! wow, natural complete cycle!
Rob S. aka Blitz wrote:
And what do you do in public? There is no way Im putting any part of my body on a filthy toilet! LOL, I always put down toilet paper.
I don't know about guys pooping, but women often squat or "hover" over the seat of a public toilet for either peeing or pooping. This may result in splashing, which some ladies wipe up and some women do not.
They're like this:
Nathan Johns wrote:
If you go to Japan or other Asian countries there are often still squatting toilets that are sunken into the ground. You squat over them and do your business. It's usually a bit tricky for me since I'm not used to it but unavoidable when visiting the countryside.
They're like this:
I encountered the "hole in the floor" women's toilet in Italy decades ago. Much more rudimentary than the lovely white porcelain depicted above.
I had concluded it was impossible to get up on the terlit while wearing pants, but was soon corrected: just go into the handicap stall and hold the railing and bunny hop up there.
I think I broke the hinge on my home terlit seat. I mean, it's broken; I just don't know if I'm the one broke it.
Am I the only one who thought this thread was addressing suicide? What a relief, pun intended, to find it's just about pooping.
Well, he said - picking himself up off the floor, When i first saw the title of the thread, i thought that maybe it was going to be a suggestion that true permaculture would be achieved when we cut out the biggest predator to the ecosystem.
edit: unless you're limited to one or two burdock plants... you will not have any shortage of good-sized leaves during the height of summer.
Splashing is adressed by aiming for the side of the bowl. I personally don't think balancing on the toilet is hard, but if you do try practising.
Public toilets suck though... I do the "hover" thing there. Not satisfactory...
- X 2
There is no need to squat on the toilet seat. There is no gravity involved in elimination. Muscular action pushes the feces out of the body. Simply sit on the seat and then lean forward so your knuckles touch your feet or the floor. Your torso and legs will now be in the same position as if you were squatting and you wont be risking breaking the seat or your neck.
The one benefit to having a small bathroom is when the toilet is positioned faceing the tub. Then you can put yoru feet up and relax
but interesting thought, i had heard this before from permies related stuff but this provided a link to explaining it a lot better
i also thought this was a suicide thread lol
I am lazy. I sit. Spreadem and push. Period. I do not linger and often need not much wipe. Your diet if right should help you. Exercise is everything. Hydration is key also. I am not too fond of the leaf thing, but most toilet paper is a joke. I use nose tissue. It works well and you need lots less.
Now, please wash your hands!
The WORST stoppage I ever saw was lard down a six inch sewer. I had to go down a ladder in a manhole, and giant plaques of LARD was floating around on pools of water. It's this sort of thing that turns you against conventional lifestyles.
I plan to do SOLAR COMPOSTING TOILETS also, to make humanure compost fast. It will have a grid that poop falls on, dries out and falls through. I will put glass over the grid, and sun will dry it out fast. Do you think that will work? I am afraid the poop will stick to the grid instead of falling through like it is supposed to. Or maybe I could just skip the grid and let it fall on a surface.
\ The Nearings used a grid, and they put a light bulb underneath it to make poop dry out.
I have oversized septic tanks right now, but they are not good for the soil, and you can't tell what people put down them. I clean with vinegar and soda a lot, but other people put chemicals down the tanks, and trees near the line died.
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