Chloe Carpenter wrote:Hi T.S. Moss! So nice to find you.
We're interested in the same area (Vt) for similar reasons. We have a connection to the area and would appreciate less zoning and a chance to experiment. We plan to start scouting this summer, as we're also ready to buy. It would be nice to have (more) friends in the area. We're youngish too, and very unusual for our group, so I definitely understand what you mean about reaching your midlife crisis at 30, lol. What do you plan to do/ raise/ grow?
Maureen Atsali wrote:I am from Vermont originally, and would advise great care before buying there. There is a lot of variance from town to town on ordnances and adherence. The small town where I grew up was a real pain in the rear, and it got worse over time as the influx of rich out-of-state city transplants got into local politics. And the property taxes can be killer. I love Vermont, its beautiful, my dad still has 10 acres there that has been in the family for generations. But I wouldn't but a property there now. I might opt for an unorganized township in Maine.
Dwight Smith wrote:...have been looking and researching those 3 states/areas for the past 4 years or so on and off.
Viewed and talked to probably over 800 properties on line throughout those years. We would look at enough to narrow it down to about 10-15 places.
Map them all out and take a trip for a week or two and check them out. Did it this way and walked on the land of about 100 properties, mostly in Maine.
We learned a lot in the process. And still learning. To much to go into here.
Yes, we are picky but with very good reason.
Dwight Smith wrote: The states have what I call "pockets" made up of climate zones, people, towns, zoning, resources, that are amazingly diverse and or stuck in there own ways while open in others.
Dwight Smith wrote: Some of these small towns are more polluted then the bigger cities. Yet, you would never know it without spending time and talking to the right locals.
Dwight Smith wrote:We are still looking for an area to live in but we are really looking for the right kind of people we want to live around.
We feel like having the permies type of mindset with others is the way to go.
Work together in healthy ways and share this permies way of life.
Many working hands can make light work.
Getting ones ego out of the way can create a sustainable win/win in the process.
So for us, we would like to team up with other healthy enough folks to share in resources and play off each other to live a more sustainable and simple life.
Dwight Smith wrote: Perhaps if we are somewhat on the same page with similar issues we could get together and share information and see how it goes.
Jules Harrell wrote:...I hear you on the sentiments about VT. This ain't west Texas that's for sure!
On the other hand there's ways to do things that work really well in VT.
You have to know how to work it. Right now you can build solar, and be legally completely off the grid. On our VT property we could build a LARGE hunting lodge and pay no additional taxes.
Before we diss VT, remember, it's a sweet state, one area code, and plenty of room to relax.
Kate Muller wrote:The town of Grafton is a good place to look in NH. ..... Wentworth doesn't have zoning or permits other than state level septic too but there is nothing near it in terms of conveniences.
Kate Muller wrote:When looking for properties keep in mind that there are state and local restrictions on "wet lands" Basically they severely limit what can be built within X number of feet of the designated wet land. These regulations can make a lot unbuildable. Also watch out for deed restrictions, and seasonal camps. These are cottages that are zoned so you can't live in them year round and some people will complain if you try and live in them all year.
Kate Muller wrote:Like much of Northern New England NH regulations, zoning, permits, house and lot size minimums, and other aspects of "the department of making you sad" varies dramatically from town to town. I suggest researching each town's regulations before you settle down somewhere.
Dwight Smith wrote:Specific pockets isn’t easy to recommend because each area is so unique and has it’s own set of circumstances that I would like and can live with and your in a different place so it wouldn’t be a fit for you.
Dwight Smith wrote:As part of your research in some of these cool towns just find out what factories are in the area and what is in the river that you may or may not want to tolerate, or live down stream of. If your into clean water, look for area’s that the bottle water companies have wells around. We found it to be a good indicator that the water around is good.
Dwight Smith wrote:We have come to the conclusion in the direction of the structure like what Paul has done. And achieve it through setting it up in the right kind of trusts. Otherwise you will never achieve win/win. (not your minds version) If you don’t have that as your foundation you have nothing.
Dwight Smith wrote:We would prefer to get to know you privately. A picture say’s a thousand words so to speak. Sometimes one phone call can get to the bottom of things faster then 3,000 emails/forum chats.
This way if we are not on the same page we won’t waste anyone’s time.
Plus, it’s been about a year that we took notes, so talking, seeing a map, and finding some notes would stir up our memory as to what is what.
Dwight Smith wrote:Really make sure you figure out and narrow down how you want to live your life in this new direction mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, financially, socially and energetically. Include these 7 aspect of yourself and you will be able to be and apply balance to yourself, others and the land.