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Living in Anjou , France,
For the many not for the few
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David Livingston wrote:I personally would reduce the entrance to the hive to give your girls more chance to defend to hive from the robbers right down to maybe four inch width because if there are fifty robbers there must be a great deal more robbing going on .
David
List of Bryant RedHawk's Epic Soil Series Threads We love visitors, that's why we live in a secluded cabin deep in the woods. "Buzzard's Roost (Asnikiye Heca) Farm." Promoting permaculture to save our planet.
My Food Forest - Mile elevation. Zone 6a. Southern Idaho <--I moved in year two...unfinished...probably has cattle on it.
Hardiness Zone 6 Save the bees.
Joshua Parke wrote:
Varro mites - From what I learned, varro mites are a problem in hives where the bees are forced to build a specific cell size. If they are allowed to draw out all of their own fresh new comb everytime, then the varro mite cycle ceases. So basically with your langstroth, remove the comb foundations from the frames, and allow the bees to build their own. The cell size and the timing that results are what keep the varro mites out. I could try to explain it from memory but I would fudge it up.
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Michael Cox wrote:.... People who advocate small cell beekeeping have not actually been shown to have better results than those who use traditional foundation sizes, when other factors are taken into account....
Joshua Parke wrote: I think the large size of the Perrone is the reason why they fail so often.
"People may doubt what you say, but they will believe what you do."
Todd Parr wrote:I would like to hear more details about this. My Perrone hive is full size, and by far the strongest hive I have had.
Michael Cox wrote:This is often repeated, but based on a series of suppositions that have not been demonstrated to work in practice.
My Food Forest - Mile elevation. Zone 6a. Southern Idaho <--I moved in year two...unfinished...probably has cattle on it.
Joshua Parke wrote:
I would actually like to hear more about that.Do you have any info up about it? The statement was purely personal from observation. As I kept reading about the perrone, I continued to see more failures than successes, some were attributing the large size as to the reason. The hives would take off and then fail within a year, I think it was because the colony just couldn't get large enough that first year to get through the winter. And the warre hives have great success because of their small size. But the fact that you're in zone 4 in Wisconson.....I want to hear more about your successful perrone hive. I have a huge hive I built but never set it up....I may convert it to a perrone. It is HUGE like a perrone...maybe a little bigger.
"People may doubt what you say, but they will believe what you do."
Todd Parr wrote:
Joshua Parke wrote: I think the large size of the Perrone is the reason why they fail so often.
I would like to hear more details about this. My Perrone hive is full size, and by far the strongest hive I have had.
Gregory T. Russian wrote:
Todd Parr wrote:
Joshua Parke wrote: I think the large size of the Perrone is the reason why they fail so often.
I would like to hear more details about this. My Perrone hive is full size, and by far the strongest hive I have had.
So for how long this has been going in years (the same, strong colony in the large volume)?
What is the hive volume?
"People may doubt what you say, but they will believe what you do."
Todd Parr wrote:
Gregory T. Russian wrote:
Todd Parr wrote:
Joshua Parke wrote: I think the large size of the Perrone is the reason why they fail so often.
I would like to hear more details about this. My Perrone hive is full size, and by far the strongest hive I have had.
So for how long this has been going in years (the same, strong colony in the large volume)?
What is the hive volume?
3 years. I don't know what the volume is. I made it to the Perrone specs.
Joshua Parke wrote:
If I'm recalling correctly there is a website out there of a man who makes a living as a beekeeper for well over 30 years. He tossed all his foundation because of this. He documented the difference in the hives, with photos. He was documenting the changes to the hives that went from large cell foundation, to bee drawn comb. It took a few "generations" of comb before the effects were apparent. When the bees were taken off the foundation and allowed to draw out their own comb, they didn't reduce the cell size all at once, they had to go through a few generations of brood. This was years ago, and I've lost my computer where I had the page bookmarked. I was trying to find the page but have still yet to find it. He was hinting at writing a book, but don't know if he ever did. Pre-determined cell size foundation also prevents the evolutionary process from functioning properly as nature intended it.![]()
I'm not sure if this is the person I was thinking of or if I'm recalling things incorrectly. But I found a site that I know I had bookmarked, which goes into detail on the topic. Natural Cell Size And it's implications to beekeeping and Varroa mites
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Living in Anjou , France,
For the many not for the few
http://www.permies.com/t/80/31583/projects/Permie-Pennies-France#330873
I found some pretty shells, some sea glass and this lovely tiny ad:
A book about luxuriant recipes for green living
https://greenlivingbook.com/
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