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Aquaponics is listed in the Building forum at present. I assume there would be a considerable amount of building required to set up an aquaponics system, but I don't feel that it fits in the building forum.


The origin of the word comes from:

aquaculture (raising fish) + hydroponics (the soil-less growing of plants) = AQUAPONICS


Hunting and Fishing is one combined sub-forum under Wilderness and suggestive more of the sport of fishing (angling), as opposed to farming and raising fish.

The Growies forum would, in my opinion, be a better fit.
 
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I've often thought this myself.  

I think that aquaponics was put in the building forum because it tends to be a bit of a construction project, but I think of it as a growie system...  so I definitely agree.
 
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For that matter, it could also fit under "critters" as you're taking care of fish, and fish are critters.

It probably is under "building" because that's were other water related things are--rainwater catchment and grey water.

It looks like Ponds is under Homestead, so perhaps aquaponics could also go there? Man, there's a lot of forums aquaponics only sort-of fits :o
 
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I wondered this.  Then, about a year ago, Paul explained why it was there.  Some long explanation I cannot remember, but I recall thinking, "of course.  That's the perfect home for it"

Just wish I could remember what he said.
 
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Moving it makes sense to me. When I see the word building, I think "structure with roof and walls" but there are many sub forums within the building forum that aren't roof and walls, like fencing, and that fall under the other definition of building, "assembling materials". Perhaps Paul's thinking is building encompasses both, being a sort of cross-over forum?
 
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paul wheaton wrote:Because it requires a great deal of building. Tanks and pumps... pipes and Plumbing... lighting and Heating... it is a significant manufacturing process.



https://permies.com/t/55613/aquaponics-building-subforum
 
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Thanks guys. If it works for Paul, it's fine with me. Building forum it is.
 
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I personally agree with Nicole that it should be under critters.  I wouldn't put it in the building area because I would look at it like a chicken coop. It may have a building, lights, heating system, water, but that isn't the goal, just something that needs to be done on the way to the goal, which is keeping the chickens. I could see the argument for growies as well.
 
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The way I see it, if I was completely new to this site and I wanted to find aquaponics, I don't think that I would go looking in the Building forum.  

Thanks guys. If it works for Paul, it's fine with me. Building forum it is.

I can appreciate that Karen doesn't want to stir the pot here.  Thing is, not that I would say that Paul is less than perfect by any stretch of the imagination, I think that in light of the conversation by the trusted moderators, he might reconsider the situation. Todd's chicken coop example shows the logical progression that such a reconsideration might take, I would think.  

I wouldn't put it in the building area because I would look at it like a chicken coop. It may have a building, lights, heating system, water, but that isn't the goal, just something that needs to be done on the way to the goal, which is keeping the chickens. I could see the argument for growies as well.

 While the building forum might be used for the coop construction project, I think the primary forum would still be chickens.  That's where the new people looking for building a chicken coop are going to look.  I think Growies or Critters; and am leaning more toward Critters.  Or we could actually have a Fish Farming sub forum within Critters that encompasses aquaculture, aquaponics, and aquariums---> ???   Just food for thought.  Maybe the word Fish Farming has too many negative connotations.
 
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I remember an idea that it would be neat if a forum (like aquaculture) could fit under more than one category (growies, building, critters).  It's something we toyed with, but there are so many other pressing updates that it's been pushed to the back burner.  
 
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