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Sometimes a post isn't quite up to scratch.  In the past, we simply deleted these posts.  Now we have a new feature that gives the author an opportunity to mend their post.  The changes will be reviewed by staff and then it will be either published or deleted.  

We call this feature Almost-a-Post.  

This thread is for discussion of this feature.
 
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I received a pm. No problem with what was asked (remove 1 of 2 points i made).

I have no idea if i was succesful. I went to a provided link to edit the post. After it was edited , i went back into the link and the post did not reflect my edit.  Im just making sure i got it done.

It came from nicole. Bramberger is in title thread. Its the first post made by me.
 
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How is this different than the "Your post requires editing" notices?
 
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Wes, in my case the post was not removed, to be reinserted later(after editing). I would assume thats the difference. So it keeps the thread whole/cohesive while they ask for it to be tweeked.

My one word created a large response unrelated to the original post, veering it off course. Those posts are gone, including a post by me hoping the thread doesnt turn into a debate about "x". The response was all about "x" and not related to OP. No editing could have saved it, so it was probably removed without option to edit.

 
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I have no idea if i was succesful. I went to a provided link to edit the post. After it was edited , i went back into the link and the post did not reflect my edit.  Im just making sure i got it done.



A moderator has to review the edit before it is published, but we are working out some kinks in the new system.  Is it still not showing?  

How is this different than the "Your post requires editing" notices?



Most of the difference is invisible.  We have a lot more options now with what to do with a post.  In the beginning, moderators only had one button "remove".  Then they gave us a second button for posts that were almost good but a tiny bit not.  This one they called "probation".  

The big problem is, some people were feeling that probation was a punishment.  They got upset.  

The moderators were seeing probation as a reward because usually we just remove posts that don't meet publishing standards.  As a reward for having a post that almost, but not quite, meets publishing standard we gave people the option to edit it so it could be published.

Conflicting points of view made things occasionally challenging.


The most visible change with the Almost-A-Post feature is the language.  We thought that maybe 'probation' was too hard a word so we spent many hours devising poetry that would be gentle and kind.  

There's also a link to happy cows.

 
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Ranson, its showing now.

I post on a smartphone and end up with numerous typos, so i often edit edit edit a post.  I was not able to see the required edit to see if it needed further editing. Lol. Hope that made sense
 
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I love this feature.  I posted something that could be inferred to be offensive and I was given many options.  I changed the post to remove the offensive wording and also viewed the cows.  Thanks for letting me know I messed up and giving me the chance to rectify the problem.
 
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Hi, not sure where this is going, but a post I made (technically incorrect manner to attempt a quote), it's really I don't know how, or rather haven't figured out how to copy and past a quote from another person's post I'm referring to.  So, do what you will, I still don't know how to quote another's post I'm referring to.  Teach me.

Cheers!  K
 
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Not a problem, we can help!

I disabled code in my post so you can see how it's supposed to look when you're typing it.

Basically, any quote is surrounded by quote tags,  Before the quote you type [quote] and after the quote you type [/quote]. The [/quote] pretty much means "end quote."

If you want people to know who you're quoting you type an equAL sign after the quote. So if I were to quote Santa, I'd write:

[quote=Santa Clause] Ho Ho HO [/quote]

And if I were going to quote you, I'd write:

[quote=Kate Michaud]Hi, not sure where this is going, but a post I made (technically incorrect manner to attempt a quote), it's really I don't know how, or rather haven't figured out how to copy and past a quote from another person's post I'm referring to.  So, do what you will, I still don't know how to quote another's post I'm referring to.  Teach me.

Cheers!  K[/quote]

Here's a tutorial on how to use quotes: https://permies.com/wiki/25790/post-permies

We've got a bunch of other turotieals here: https://permies.com/t/34193/tnk/permies-works-links-threads
 
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Here's the above post as it would show up after someone posts:

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Not a problem, we can help!

I disabled code in my post so you can see how it's supposed to look when you're typing it.

Basically, any quote is surrounded by quote tags,  Before the quote you type

and after the quote you type

. The pretty much means "end quote."

If you want people to know who you're quoting you type an equAL sign after the quote. So if I were to quote Santa, I'd write:

Santa Clause wrote: Ho Ho HO



And if I were going to quote you, I'd write:

Kate Michaud wrote:Hi, not sure where this is going, but a post I made (technically incorrect manner to attempt a quote), it's really I don't know how, or rather haven't figured out how to copy and past a quote from another person's post I'm referring to.  So, do what you will, I still don't know how to quote another's post I'm referring to.  Teach me.

Cheers!  K



Here's a tutorial on how to use quotes: https://permies.com/wiki/25790/post-permies

We've got a bunch of other turotieals here: https://permies.com/t/34193/tnk/permies-works-links-threads
 
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Thanks so much for the info on how to use "quotes".  

Knew I made a mess of the initial post, should have mention it immediately.   Will have to go over your info on the matter,... again, and most probably,... again.  Just not my sort of thing I guess, and should stay clear,... and not get into trouble (Ha!).  

Thanks again.

Cheers!  K
 
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Just know you weren't in trouble! We've been meaning to reword the Almost-a-Post PM so it doesn't sound so much like you messed up. If you messed up, we would have sent a "probation" message, which means the post has to get fixed to be shown.

We usually use "Almost a Post" (sometimes also referred to as "Training Wheels") to give someone the edit button so they can fix things with code or edit their post if they want to. You're not in trouble if you get a Almost a Post message, though Gir Bot certainly needs to change his verbiage so it's easier to know that!
 
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