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Regenerative grazing demonstration project - on the I-5 in California

 
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Yesterday I drove from Sacramento to Oregon on interstate 5, in between multiple forest fires.  In a time of fires, trees are maybe not the awesome carbon sink we thought they would be.  
Building soil in a grassland makes a lot more sense.

I had an idea, and I want to present it here.  We need a demonstration of the effects of regenerative grazing, where everybody can see.  Here's a view looking east from I-5, just north of Weed, California (that's Mount Shasta in the background - yesterday things were even more dry, and the mountain had precious little snow up top):



It's a mess, at least in early August.  Thin soil, sad grass, rocks sticking out of the ground all over.  It's being used for cattle, but completely unmanaged.

What if we could lease land directly adjacent to the freeway and transform it, before an audience of thousands?
 
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What am I talking about?  Something like this:


What would it take to make this happen in a high profile place, in amongst people who are running cattle the old fashioned way?

I'm not sure.  That's why I'm starting this discussion.  I don't know, for example, what a reasonable acreage is required for such a project to succeed.  But let's forge ahead, and think about what we need. . . .

1) Land.  I don't think we have to buy the land.  I think it  would be preferable to obtain a lease.  I'm not sure of the duration - long enough to be confident that an obvious significant change has been made --> 10 years? 5 years?  To me, the ideal situation would be to lease a long strip of land directly adjacent to the freeway from one of the cattle ranches already present.  Some of the necessary infrastructure is already present.  

I think with ranchers it is far better to show them what can be done versus try to explain and instruct.  If the rancher starts out thinking "Sure, you can lease some of my worst land for your hippy-dippy experiment - give me the money, goofballs" I feel like after a year or two he'll be glancing over and eventually he may want to learn how to do this thing himself.  

I think when established cattle ranchers hear about moving cattle frequently, they think "Shit, that sounds like a lot of work.  No way!"  They think about how hard it is to move a herd of cattle, in their experience.  They don't realize that when you are giving a herd access to wonderful fresh forage, all you gotta do is open the gate.  The cattle move themselves.  And, they are so happy about it!  It's a thing you kinda have to experience, but the happiness of the cattle at fresh pasture is contagious.  It makes you happy, to make them happy.  



I remember reading a study of dairy farmers in Wisconsin who switched to managed grazing from confinement feeding.  They reported that they worked about the same number of hours, but the tasks were much more enjoyable and involved a lot more walking around outside, which led to happier and healthier farmers.

2) People.  This will be the hardest thing.  We need somebody who already knows all about regenerative grazing, be it from holistic management training/experience, or interning with Greg Judy (he's where I got the idea about leasing land instead of buying it).  We need more than somebody, we need enough people to form a small successful community to make this thing work.  Being just off interstate 5 between San Francisco and Portland would be a plus in terms of recruiting people for on-site courses, or WWOOFing.  The thing with people is that nothing succeeds like success.   If we can put together an awesome situation, we can find good people, but it's easier to get funding after you have a reputable team in place.  

3) Infrastructure.  This encompasses a lot of things.  Moveable fencing, watering equipment, manager and intern habitat.

4) Cattle.  Duh.  I'm not going to be picky about the breed, although I'll note that successful grass feeding genetics are not the same as successful feedlot genetics.  Good beef cattle.  I envision branded beef, something direct like "Regenerative Beef," sold to the best restaurants in San Francisco (Portland, Sacramento) because it's super high quality and it has the best story.  Customers love food with a story.  (I know I do!)
 
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I strongly feel that if we could transform land in such a visible place, in such an obvious way, it can make a world changing impression.

I'm imagining signage along the freeway, first nothing huge, just announcing the project.  Maybe even little signs telling a story a la Burma Shave.



After a while, wouldn't it be cool if there was a billboard showing what the land looked like originally, right in front of the improved land?  Over the years, you could watch all those black rocks "sink" into built up topsoil.

Grasslands are our best bet for trapping carbon and rainwater in places like Northern California.



Forests are better where wildfire is less of a hazard.



We need to have started ten, twenty years ago, but the second best time is now.  When things get really dire and people are looking for solutions, I want this project to be there showing a way.  

Who's with me?  Anybody know a multimillionaire who wants to make a real difference in the world?  What about grants?  What takes this from an idea to an active experiment?
 
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So how are the plans going?
 
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Many places in southern California are PAYING a company to run goats on their land short-term for fire abatement, usually in freeway clear-ways or managed slopes on development "edges."

I have even seen tractors with brush-hog blades clearing sides of the freeway periodically to decrease fire risk - it seems if you create the company, prove your track record, you could potentially bid on mitigation projects for the city, county, state agencies, just like those tractors, and they'd PAY you to do it!
 
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John C Daley wrote:So how are the plans going?



I wasn't presenting a plan, I was putting an idea out into the world.  It's a good idea, but I'm working (more than) full time right now plus managing my household and more.

Feel free to take this idea and run!

It's so frustrating to hear people talk about how we need to decrease livestock to save the world.  In brittle dry environments, inside a ruminant is the only place wet enough for the microbial magic that leads to rich soil.
 
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Joe Salatin seems to be onto that idea
 
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One time I ran into some Stanford guys taking a tour and analysis of the land for goat grazing as fire prevention and land regeneration.

I'm super keen on your idea and I would love to link resources if there's any concrete way of going forward here.


Let's keep this convo going and signalboost!!!
 
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Yes, although I'm thinking cattle, not goats.  Goats are browsers, they eat the leaves from forbs and bushes and thus help with fire control in forest.  Cattle can be used to create healthy grasslands, a la Alan Savory:

 
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Right there with you on the a la Allan Savory. I wonder if it would be relatively simple to align the farmers who already keep cattle nearby, and the owner/s of the land. Perhaps an organization. That raises the question of funds I suppose.
 
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You might find a farmer happy to supply cattle free of charge if they ate for free while on loan... and were well cared for...

I would imagine the requirements for this version would be something like:

(#?) of experienced cow-people
Electric fence gear
Supplementary feed? Minerals?

Mobile waterer setup. Cows drink a lot...

Somewhere to fill said water setup, and a way to move it. I am picturing a big tank and a couple troughs all set up to haul behind a pickup. If it has to come from a good ways off, maybe you need another tank to bring water to this tank, so that you don't have a 'no water' situation in the meantime... and have some grace time if the water truck breaks down...

Mobile shade?

Ideally, the cattle can be herded to and from the site, but more likely they will need to be moved. Hiring a livestock hauler, ie money..
Insurance? Yuck.

And of course, contracts with whichever desk-jockeys have the requisite authority...

Seems to me the first step might be finding a couple core people to do the actual work, and figuring out a target area and time frame; that would allow one to determine target head count, and *that* would allow one to start scaling the gear, which in turn would allow for some cost estimates...

Probably wouldn't want to get much further than that without an initial conversation with someone who could in theory approve access...

And, if those steps go ok, one could then start seeking funds; grants, donations, kickstarter, selling tickets for an integrated educational seminar... maybe there is someone already running related courses that would like the publicity...
 
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(I mean, obviously the biggest problem is that nobody in the thread so far can/will take on this project... least of all me...  but maybe the right person will stumble in someday...)
 
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I've got little to add. I have a good friend who is following the cannabis thread into some good contacts with some old I5 farmers. Those folks are generally some serious old money big acreage land holders.

If anyone has any useful contacts around that zone, I'd recommend the work of Greg Judy if  we're looking at ways  for this project to advance
 
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Greg Judy is the bomb.  Love his work, love to watch him tell his story:
 
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