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What product/dvd/book should I get to be able to learn and build my own Rocket stove?

 
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Hi

Discovered Permies by reading about the Rocket Oven kickstarter.
I missed the kickstarter but I will be getting the video when it is released in September.
That DVD is mainly about building an oven.

What product should I get to learn about building a stove?
Or has that product not been made yet and will be a future Kickstarter?

I know there is the
The new 4-DVD set "Better Wood Heat: DIY Rocket Mass Heaters" (BWH)
The old 4-DVD set "Wood Burning Stoves 2.0" (WBS2)
but I don't know which specifically to get for building a rocket stove, something more targeted along the spirit of the Rocket Oven DVD, and preferably the most updated instruction.

Thank you very much! Can't wait for the Rocket Oven DVD release
 
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Hi Jun; Welcome to Permies!  
If it is rocket mass heaters that you wish to learn about, then the book for you is (The Rocket Mass Heater Builders Guide) By Ernie & Erica Wisner.  Readily available from them or Amazon .
Rocket stoves) are built by ice fishermen, boy scouts, volunteers in third world country's.  They can be built out of any size container 1 gal up to 55 gal or more. Super quick to heat also super quick cooling off.  
 
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I believe one of the push goals for the rocket oven kickstarter was a J-tube rocket stove grill top? But I second getting Erica and Ernie's Builders Guide. The J-tube section of a RMH is a rocket stove; make sure it's insulated but just the bricks for that section and a cooking surface on top of the riser that's stable and allows exhaust gasses to flow by will do it. Matt Walker has designed a brick rocket stove/oven/heater as well which you could start with just the stove/oven portion, which would incorporate some mass into the design for heating.

But for just an insulated burn tunnel and riser for cooking, I would set up insulated fire brick, and then surround that with additional insulation and reinforce the riser with a wider, more stable frame.
 
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Thank for the welcome and great replies.
Though I have no plans on building a Rocket Mass Heater since I live in a place that never requires heating, I actually already bought the kindle of the Rocket Mass Heater Builders Guide, and have started to read it, but from the 10% of the book I've read, I have a feeling I would need a more visual medium to fully understand how to build a rocket stove.
My main reason for learning all about this rocket stuff is mainly for cooking and baking, as such Rocket stove design/creation information is what I'm searching for, since the Rocket Oven info is already coming soon.

Hoping the rocket oven video and plans will be enough for me to get started into making a rocket oven stove top.

To those who have gotten all 8 of the DVDs, do I really need to get the first four Wood Burning Stoves 2.0 or is the info on the 4 DVD Better Wood Heat cover the most important science and ideas I need to know to build a stove? Or is getting the PDC + ATC 177 hour course a more updated way to learn what I need? Keep in mind, I already own the Rocket Mass Heater Builders Guide book.

Thank you very much
 
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Hi Jun;   Have you seen Matt Walkers tiny house cook stove ???  It's beyond awesome and it could be just what you need. Here is the link  https://permies.com/t/71700/Tiny-House-Cook-Stove-Heater.
Enjoy your travels thru the wonderful world of rocket heaters, simply reading old posts in the mass heater forum can give you valuable info and great photos (for you visual needs).


 
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Hi Thomas.
I just started taking a look at the link you sent, but haven't tried to comprehend it yet, but it's exactly the info I want.
It really looks like I went down a deep rabbit hole with this Rocket cookstove/oven interest. Now I have to learn about Batch Box Rockets, in addition to J Tube, in addition what Matt Walkers has. Oh my. So much info, so little brainpower to digest it all. Wishing I had studied better when I was in college.
Hope Peter van den Berg, Matt Walker and Erica Wisner each or collaboratively come up with a multi hour very detailed multi DVD including thick books and sketchup files just concentrated on cook stoves and oven designs. That would be so incredible and useful for those focused on cooking.
 
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Jun; Matt has a website where you can buy plans as well as other things.     walkerstoves.com  
 
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thomas rubino wrote:Jun; Matt has a website where you can buy plans as well as other things.     walkerstoves.com  


Thanks Thomas. I contemplating getting his plans. But I want to start simple first, or as simple as a Rocket Oven will hopefully be before I jump into anything that Matt has, especially since I don't have access to ceramic fiber boards in my country.
 
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