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Glyphosate Used to Shelf-Stabilize Intolerant Crops

 
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IBS and cancer are linked to glyphosate which is used to shelf-stabilize a lot of food you wouldn't think they'd spray it on. Including potatoes and wheat!

Here's a study outlining some of the known problems with glyphosate:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945755/

Using it to "shelf stabilize" (they spray it so it will die back and not sprout and/or make it easier to harvest) is called preharvest spraying. Here's some more info on it: https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/pre-harvest-roundup-crops-not-just-wheat/

Basically everything has glyphosate applied at some point, unless it's organic, and that causes now common health issues.
 
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I heard of this initially with potatoes and wheat. I asked my farmer uncle about the wheat and he said they do it in the wetter parts of the midwest but he thought any wheat from the Dakotas or Montana wouldn't need it.

Since then I've heard that this practice is also used on dry beans, sugarcane and any other crop where you want the plant to be deadish for harvest.

I've always wonder how pervasive this practice actually is.  This article doesn't really give me confidence, due primarily to the chart of data and this associated tidbit:

Glyphosate use by farmers averages 70% or more for some crops. These include almonds, walnuts, figs, plums, prunes, grapes, kiwi, lemons, grapefruit, pistachios, and pomegranates.


I'm not a glyphosate expert but I believe if you apply it to any of those aforementioned perennial crops they will kill the tree.  No farmer would do that except for insurance fraud reasons.  Am I missing something?
 
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The vineyards and orchards that I visited in Kern county California looked like bare-dirt deserts, except for the tree or vine. This was due to heavy use of herbicides in the vineyards and orchards. .
 
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I'm pretty sure it(or something) is used on cotton fields to kill/drop the leaves to get them out of the way to harvest the cotton balls.

While its not food,  it does press against some sensitive regions of the body .
 
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Yes,  I think on the orchards it's just under the trees so mechanical harvest can happen easier.  How much is in/on the fruit,  probably  not as much as potatoes or wheat where the intent is to spray kill the crop.  Plus almonds have shells.

I know for me switching some foods (grains+potatoes) to organic has helped get rid of eczema and other immune related issues I had. Which means my issue is probably a pesticide intolerance. I didn't know until I read this how pervasive glyphosate is. It only became so from about 1996 and on. That's pretty recent in human years, but I'd say it's some toxic gick I try to get out of my life as much as possible.
 
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I've been wondering if it's the glyphosate residue in wheat and potatoes that has been giving me coeliac symptoms and not the gluten. I had another severe case of diarrhea at the end of my last semester of school that resembled coeliac. I've even been given Prilosec to manage GERD symptoms. By the way, I've even looked a medical study on lab rats suggesting glyphosate may have an inflammatory effect on liver tissue. Maybe if I follow an organic pesticide-free diet I could reduce the ammount of pharmaceutical drugs I have to take. Here is the study I found on lab rats:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6537504/
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