• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nancy Reading
  • Carla Burke
  • r ranson
  • John F Dean
  • paul wheaton
  • Pearl Sutton
stewards:
  • Jay Angler
  • Liv Smith
  • Leigh Tate
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • Timothy Norton
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Jeremy VanGelder
  • Maieshe Ljin

Apple seedling or pear seedling? (identification)

 
pollinator
Posts: 875
Location: Kansas
231
forest garden fungi bee medical herbs writing greening the desert
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Does anyone know how to identify whether a seedling is apple or pear? I've been planting apple seeds and pear seeds for years without much success, then all of a sudden these popped up this spring. I know they're either apple or pear, probably pear, but I can't really tell the difference.

Any ideas?
IMG_20180908_183934697-in-question-01.jpg
Trees in question
Trees in question
IMG_20180908_183941460-In-question.jpg
Trees in question (single)
Trees in question (single)
IMG_20180908_184002995-Pear.jpg
I know this one is a pear
I know this one is a pear
IMG_20180908_184035077-Apple.jpg
I know this one is an apple
I know this one is an apple
 
master pollinator
Posts: 4953
Location: Due to winter mortality, I stubbornly state, zone 7a Tennessee
2118
6
forest garden foraging books food preservation cooking fiber arts bee medical herbs
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
No guarantee, but they look like apple to me.
 
Posts: 38
Location: NE AZ
9
forest garden food preservation greening the desert
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I agree those look like apple seedlings.
 
Lauren Ritz
pollinator
Posts: 875
Location: Kansas
231
forest garden fungi bee medical herbs writing greening the desert
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Can you by any chance help me know how to tell? I have three pear seedlings and two that I know are apples, and I seriously can't tell the difference between them.
 
Lauren Ritz
pollinator
Posts: 875
Location: Kansas
231
forest garden fungi bee medical herbs writing greening the desert
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Does anyone here know how to tell the difference between a seedling apple and a seedling pear? The only real difference I can see is the bark, and it looks different from both the apple and the pear. I planted both apples and pears here in previous years so it could be either. I haven't planted anything here for about two years.
Apple-or-pear-seedling.jpg
This is what I'm trying to identify
This is what I'm trying to identify
Apple-Seedling.jpg
2nd year apple (I don't have any new seedlings)
2nd year apple (I don't have any new seedlings)
Pear-Seedling.jpg
Pear seedling
Pear seedling
 
gardener
Posts: 967
Location: Ohio, USA
204
dog forest garden fish fungi trees urban food preservation solar woodworking
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
My vote is pear, but if you wait long enough you'll know.  Pears growth are more conical in form and apples are rounder, similar to the fruit.
 
Joylynn Hardesty
master pollinator
Posts: 4953
Location: Due to winter mortality, I stubbornly state, zone 7a Tennessee
2118
6
forest garden foraging books food preservation cooking fiber arts bee medical herbs
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I have Bradford pears popping up everywhere that does not get mowed. The seedling does not look like a bradford pear. It does not look like my Moonglo pear, or my neighbor's mystery pear. It does have similarities with my apple, Gala, Granny Smith, and a mystery apple that was here before I was. I can't quite quantify precisely why I say apple, but it's something about the vein structure and leaf shape.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
Lauren Ritz
pollinator
Posts: 875
Location: Kansas
231
forest garden fungi bee medical herbs writing greening the desert
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
The consensus is apple. Thanks!

If anyone can tell me how to tell the difference it would be a huge help in the future.
 
master pollinator
Posts: 1744
Location: Ashhurst New Zealand (Cfb - oceanic temperate)
533
duck trees chicken cooking wood heat woodworking homestead
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Apple leaves are a medium greyish green on top with a textured surface and whitish (tomentose) underside. Pear leaves are a bright green, with a smoother surface and less difference between top and bottom. On my trees the apple leaves tend to be bigger.
 
Posts: 1
Location: Shepherdsville, United States
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Lauren Ritz wrote:Does anyone know how to identify whether a seedling is apple or pear? I've been planting apple seeds and pear seeds for years without much success, then all of a sudden these popped up this spring. I know they're either apple or pear, probably pear, but I can't really tell the difference.

Any ideas?


Apple and pear trees have an alternate branching pattern. Your seedlings appear to have opposite branching. Also, the woody stem appears to be winged, which leads me to think these are wined euonymus seedlings. I hope I am wrong, but if you find them to be winged euonymus I would remove them, as they are invasive.
 
Lauren Ritz
pollinator
Posts: 875
Location: Kansas
231
forest garden fungi bee medical herbs writing greening the desert
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Hunter Ardrey wrote:

Lauren Ritz wrote:Does anyone know how to identify whether a seedling is apple or pear? I've been planting apple seeds and pear seeds for years without much success, then all of a sudden these popped up this spring. I know they're either apple or pear, probably pear, but I can't really tell the difference.

Any ideas?


Apple and pear trees have an alternate branching pattern. Your seedlings appear to have opposite branching. Also, the woody stem appears to be winged, which leads me to think these are wined euonymus seedlings. I hope I am wrong, but if you find them to be winged euonymus I would remove them, as they are invasive.


Darn it, you're right! Both of them, opposite leaves and the 2nd year leaf growth is showing a very definite pattern of seven leaflets on each stem. Aagh! I don't see how it happened, but there and nowhere else. I carefully replanted the "apples" in their permanent locations this year, and...I should be used to this stuff by now.
 
Posts: 40
3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Another layer:
How to tell an apple sapling from a pear sapling in Winter without leaves?

I've got potted saplings with faded tags. Time for grafting and not sure which are which...
 
pollinator
Posts: 366
113
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
It is difficult to explain, but if you show pictures I might help.
 
life is short - but not as short as this ad:
A rocket mass heater is the most sustainable way to heat a conventional home
http://woodheat.net
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic