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Apple seedling or pear seedling? (identification)

 
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Does anyone know how to identify whether a seedling is apple or pear? I've been planting apple seeds and pear seeds for years without much success, then all of a sudden these popped up this spring. I know they're either apple or pear, probably pear, but I can't really tell the difference.

Any ideas?
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Trees in question
Trees in question
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Trees in question (single)
Trees in question (single)
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I know this one is a pear
I know this one is a pear
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I know this one is an apple
I know this one is an apple
 
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No guarantee, but they look like apple to me.
 
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I agree those look like apple seedlings.
 
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Can you by any chance help me know how to tell? I have three pear seedlings and two that I know are apples, and I seriously can't tell the difference between them.
 
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I merged your stuff with the following thread. I hope that is okay by you.
 
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Does anyone here know how to tell the difference between a seedling apple and a seedling pear? The only real difference I can see is the bark, and it looks different from both the apple and the pear. I planted both apples and pears here in previous years so it could be either. I haven't planted anything here for about two years.
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This is what I'm trying to identify
This is what I'm trying to identify
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2nd year apple (I don't have any new seedlings)
2nd year apple (I don't have any new seedlings)
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Pear seedling
Pear seedling
 
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My vote is pear, but if you wait long enough you'll know.  Pears growth are more conical in form and apples are rounder, similar to the fruit.
 
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I have Bradford pears popping up everywhere that does not get mowed. The seedling does not look like a bradford pear. It does not look like my Moonglo pear, or my neighbor's mystery pear. It does have similarities with my apple, Gala, Granny Smith, and a mystery apple that was here before I was. I can't quite quantify precisely why I say apple, but it's something about the vein structure and leaf shape.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
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The consensus is apple. Thanks!

If anyone can tell me how to tell the difference it would be a huge help in the future.
 
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Apple leaves are a medium greyish green on top with a textured surface and whitish (tomentose) underside. Pear leaves are a bright green, with a smoother surface and less difference between top and bottom. On my trees the apple leaves tend to be bigger.
 
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Lauren Ritz wrote:Does anyone know how to identify whether a seedling is apple or pear? I've been planting apple seeds and pear seeds for years without much success, then all of a sudden these popped up this spring. I know they're either apple or pear, probably pear, but I can't really tell the difference.

Any ideas?


Apple and pear trees have an alternate branching pattern. Your seedlings appear to have opposite branching. Also, the woody stem appears to be winged, which leads me to think these are wined euonymus seedlings. I hope I am wrong, but if you find them to be winged euonymus I would remove them, as they are invasive.
 
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Hunter Ardrey wrote:

Lauren Ritz wrote:Does anyone know how to identify whether a seedling is apple or pear? I've been planting apple seeds and pear seeds for years without much success, then all of a sudden these popped up this spring. I know they're either apple or pear, probably pear, but I can't really tell the difference.

Any ideas?


Apple and pear trees have an alternate branching pattern. Your seedlings appear to have opposite branching. Also, the woody stem appears to be winged, which leads me to think these are wined euonymus seedlings. I hope I am wrong, but if you find them to be winged euonymus I would remove them, as they are invasive.


Darn it, you're right! Both of them, opposite leaves and the 2nd year leaf growth is showing a very definite pattern of seven leaflets on each stem. Aagh! I don't see how it happened, but there and nowhere else. I carefully replanted the "apples" in their permanent locations this year, and...I should be used to this stuff by now.
 
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