R Ranson wrote:How can someone get confused between grass and garlic?
Jason Silberschneider wrote:I definitely don't want my seedlings to grow true to type! I want 100 different apple seeds to eventually have 100 wildly different flavoured apples growing on them, each more tart and extreme than the last.
Amit Enventres wrote:I've heard rumors about the following not growing, not producing, not tasting good, etc. from grocery produce. I think this is a recent phenomenon too. I remember them growing like crazy when I was a kid.
apples- 20% spitter rate, 40% pie rate (I think this was Paul's numbers)
peaches, pears, nectarines, plums. You can get heirloom varieties, but probably not at the grocery store.
Based on my reading, there is at least one fruit that's been bred into an Open Pollinated Variety- the Antonovka Apple.
Joseph Lofthouse wrote:For me to say that a crop grows "true to type" it pretty much has to have been inbred for about 6 generations before the differences between plants start to become imperceptible to me. I don't think that any fruit trees have been subjected to 6 generations of single-seed descent plant breeding, so I'll go ahead and offer my opinion that no fruit or nut trees grown from seed are 'true to type', as I have defined the term.
Do we have a vote of confidence in pears or oranges?
Amit Enventres wrote: I could care less if it is a Straight 8 or Market More 76 - it just needs to taste good sliced fresh with cheese dip (feta+creamcheese+drop of milk, mixed), make a good pickle, fit in salads, and grow well in the garden.
Growing fruits from seed is an endeavor for the young who have lots of land
The guy who has hundreds of fruit trees on a small lot is not growing seedlings that way. He has grafted his onto full dwarf rootstock.