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Podcast 237 - Sepp Holzer's Permaculture Chapter 6

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In this podcast Paul talks with Zach, Chad, Bill and Judith, who is one of Sepp's students.

Judith starts us out by talking about Sepp's projects from around the world: Spain, Portugal, Scotland, Greece and Russia. He was able to create jungles where there were deserts and lakes where water was scarce.

Once Judith leaves the guys to their own devices, Paul moves the discussion to Sepp's project in Scotland. The goal was to make a private permaculture garden on the Scottish heathland, which has a low pH, around the 4 to 5 mark, along with windy conditions.

The guys then discuss projects that Sepp worked on at an orphanage and a wheel chair accessible garden he created.

The conversation then moves on to Sepp's upcoming visit to the US. Sepp will be in the Loma Mar, Duluth, Detroit and Bozeman. He will be in each area for 5 days with the exception of Detroit, where he be stopping for 3 days. These are education-focused events. Then there is an Austria so you can check out all of Sepp's work in there, including Sepp's new land (which he got in an interesting way).

Paul is the keynote at Permaculture Convergence and doing a three-day earthworks workshop. People at the workshop will be actually making a design for the property and helping with the planting on the third day.

Then they discussed how you can be Holzer Permaculture certified by attending 30 days of these events, along with an independent project. The project is like the final exam and will need Sepp's approval.

Credit: Prepared by Cassie Rauk

Relevant Links

Sepp Holzer's Permaculture Book Summary

Holzer AgroEcology Page
Sepp Holzer US Tour Thread on Permies
Zachary Weiss's Perpetual Green Gardens Site

Sepp Holzer's thread at Permies
Sepp Holzer's article
Sepp Holzer and irrigation thread at Permies

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Anthony Anderson

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Great podcast - the last half listening about the events in the US was great. Thanks Paul!

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Chelle Lewis

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Question: Did I understand correctly? That removing trees will raise pH of soil .... as in Scotland.... or was this merely because they are conifers which are naturally acidic and so removing them reduced acidity? Or does just removing trees raise pH? Will putting more trees in reduce high pH? I live in Kalkheuwel.... old dutch for Calcium hill. I guess my question is... is this about trees or about types of trees for soil amendment? Also a mention was made that Sepp said that Hugelkulture will redress every soil challenge. This ties in.... any wood will give you the redress you need?

I would so appreciate some input on this.

Very interesting podcasts. Thank you.

Jordan Lowery

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I'd liketo point out/confirm that the calcium will end up in the ashes from the tree. We grow amaranth which is a calcium accumulator, it's ashes are so rich is Calcium that they can be used to turn turn corn into masa. I also use the plant to naturally " lime" the soil via dynamic accumulation.

The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings. - Masanobu Fukuoka

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Chelle Lewis wrote:Question: Did I understand correctly? That removing trees will raise pH of soil .... as in Scotland.... or was this merely because they are conifers which are naturally acidic and so removing them reduced acidity? Or does just removing trees raise pH? Will putting more trees in reduce high pH? I live in Kalkheuwel.... old dutch for Calcium hill. I guess my question is... is this about trees or about types of trees for soil amendment? Also a mention was made that Sepp said that Hugelkulture will redress every soil challenge. This ties in.... any wood will give you the redress you need?

I would so appreciate some input on this.

Very interesting podcasts. Thank you.

Some tests have been done and that seem to go against the idea that conifers cause low PH. More likely they tend to grow in high acid soil, because they tolerate it and thus have lower competition. So they can take over low PH soils. Also, fermenting bacteria create low ph juice, but the breakdown of the non sugars parts of the plants raise ph resulting in zero change over time.

Chelle Lewis

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@ Jordan Lowery. Thanks. Calcium accumulation is vital for some soils. I don't need more calcium though... 'Kalkheuwel' because we have a soil laden with it. I need to change a highly alkaline soil and interested if more trees would help with this. Pulling from deep... but I am starting to think that just raising hugelkulture beds on top might be the best for plants needing a lower pH.

@ nustada adatsun. Very interesting article. Worth reading. Thank you.

Robert Yaklin

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