Yesterday we popped out to the bullocks. It was sorta short notice, and it turns out that Dave was off-island at the time. And Doug Bullock was there, but a bit under the weather.
The tour was given by an intern - although I think the interns are trying to call themselves "skill builders". (except when they refer to past interns - those are still interns) Overall, I think our tour guide did a good job of introducing what all is going on there to noobs. I think I actually picked up about 7% new bits of information, but for the most part I think I did a good job of biting my tongue.
Just as we were loaded up and about to race back to catch the ferry, the intern said that Doug was up and out of bed and asking for me. But the others in the carpool seemed to want to catch the ferry so we wouldn't be getting home at midnight.
I was asked what was new. The bullocks are now doing paddock shift chicken stuff which is great. That wasn't part of the tour - I kinda went looking for it. That was a bit of an odd thing - the tour seemed to leave a lot out that was covered in previous tours (I think this was my fourth time there).
Overall I guess I was kinda bummed out. I was looking forward to learning a gob of new stuff, but ended up hearing stuff I already knew and trying to not crush the the beliefs of others. If it were Doug or Dave I think I could say anything I want and they would have crushed me with their encyclopedic knowledge of plants.
Richard was on the tour with us, and he has listened to most of my podcasts. He asked some good questions. One was about hugelkultur. Apparently the bullocks don't do hugelkultur. Instead they do a LOT of water pumping and irrigation. The tour guide said something about how it would not be an appropriate fit for that particular piece of land. I then opened my pie hole and suggested that there could be a property next door to the bullocks where a different permaculture practitioner might use hugelkultur - there are many schools of thought.
A couple of times, the idea of profit came up and I shared something there that I think is important that I don't think I've ever shared anywhere before: First it is important to note that while the folks at the bullock brothers are bonkers about permaculture, they are about three times more bonkers about plants. They are plant geeks! How many different plants can they add to their jungle? So when the question comes up about money, it is kinda like asking a fish in the ocean if they want more water. What would they do with more water? If you doubled the amount of water, everything would be the same. So what's the point of seeking more water? Now if you had some crazy plant that they had never tried before that might grow on their property, well, hell-yes, bring it on!
Geoff posted a bit to his blog about our trip on this day:
http://permietour2012.blogspot.com/2012/08/bullocks.html