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Welcome folks! I wanna find out the right way to grow paw-paw from seed. I've harvested paw-paw seeds from the fruit I ate from the farmers market last week. I've kept my seeds in water for a couple of days to rinse any flith left on the seeds to clean them. I'm looking for a storing place to put my paw paw seeds in so they don't dry out. Thanks!
 
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Mold can be a problem so clean the seeds with 10% chlorox, rinse, put in a zip lock bag with either damp sand or damp peat.  Something that will keep damp.  
Put in your fruit crisper for 120 days.  Don't let them freeze or dry out.
After 120 days put into a deep planter or plant in soil.  
They may sprout the first summer or the next.  Pawpaw roots grow first and then they will sprout.
Kentucky State University has a pawpaw section that will provide you with a boat load of information and recipes.

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I was recently gifted with pawpaws for seed, so it's something I've been researching. They need cold (32-40 F / 0-4 C), moist stratification for 60 to 100 days, and can be stored in the fridge is a ziplock bag for this purpose. That's cold enough that mold shouldn't be a problem.

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Cool! Cool! I'd like to find out how could I make orchards of paw paws and harvest them for local farmers markets in my neighborhood. I'm a community farmer by the way growing Native American edibles and medicinal products to help restore back the original ways of the predominant tribes and early settlers that ranged into my region.
 
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If you are wanting to develop an orchard, I would suggest looking at some of the State Conservation Departments that sell wild seedlings.  Missouri Department of Conservation has a program where they sell seedlings at a very good price. $60 for 100 seedlings but they open up for sales on September 1st. They also sell Wild Persimmon that are likely Hexaploid which only grows to around 20 ft. height which is similar to the wild Pawpaw.
These make excellent and hardy root stock for the varieties that are very desirable for markets.  Go to England's Nursery (Nuttrees.net) and look at the scion list.  He updates it every year in December.  
Grafting is easy and it is what you are likely to find in Nurseries.  Cliff England also sells varietal seeds also.

Other people may reject you but if you lie in the forest floor for long enough the moss and fungi will accept you as one of their own!

 
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i’ve had good results with outdoor stratification of pawpaw seed, in pots or in the ground, but it’s possible that folks in much warmer or much colder climates would have better luck using the fridge method.

at one point cliff england was also selling bundles of seedlings that originated at ron powell’s cultivar pawpaw orchard in ohio - that’s what i started my pawpaw orchard with. i’m topgrafting them with known cultivars, but leaving some branches of the rootstocks to see what they’re like. some look pretty promising on their own. i haven’t checked to see if england’s was still offering those recently.

 
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Blake, I'm bringing more pawpaw seeds to our "fall seed celebration" on the sixteenth of this month, if you want to add some genetic diversity to you collection.

As far as grafting, I have one tree that is "Shenandoah" variety that has larger, better, and more fruit than standard seedling.  If you did want to graft I could give you a scion.

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Mk! Happy to see you on here this morning. Are there ones out there that fit into smaller spaces? And you all reach the Illinois DNR about tree seedlings including paw paws and stuff in the past?
 
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Pawpaw are recommended to be planted between 8 and 10 foot apart between trees and 15 feet between rows.  They are pollinated by flies, beetles and ants, so they need to be in close proximity.

Other people may reject you but if you lie in the forest floor for long enough the moss and fungi will accept you as one of their own!

 
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Is there still time to plant paw paw seeds this fall for a better growing transition next year?
 
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My Shenandoah pawpaw tree is pretty small, maybe 10 ft tall.  I planted it just about 6 ft from unnamed pawpaw seedling that might be twice as tall.  Both trees send up shoots from their roots so it is now like a small grove.

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Blake Lenoir wrote: Is there still time to plant paw paw seeds this fall for a better growing transition next year?



Yes, now is a good time to plant.  This is just when nature is "planting" pawpaw seeds in fallen fruits.

Weeds are just plants with enough surplus will to live to withstand normal levels of gardening!--Alexandra Petri

 
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Mk Neal wrote:My Shenandoah pawpaw tree is pretty small, maybe 10 ft tall.  I planted it just about 6 ft from unnamed pawpaw seedling that might be twice as tall.  Both trees send up shoots from their roots so it is now like a small grove.


Eventually I want to plant some seeds in a couple non-productive patches near me.  May not be enough light but eventually a large tree falls.  The place is covered with edible mushrooms (oyster and woodear)

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I'm looking for more mature size paw paws to have fruit for next year at my farm. Any places you all know of?
 
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Productive pawpaws are usually 10 years old (if wild) and maybe 6 to 7 if grafted.  The tap root is very long and the root hairs very fragile.  According to KSU Pawpaw website and others, they do not transplant well.  
Suggest looking for places that sell frozen pulp since they do not ship well whole.  
I hope a few of my grafted cultvars produce next year but I don't expect more that one or two from each.

Other people may reject you but if you lie in the forest floor for long enough the moss and fungi will accept you as one of their own!

 
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How I planted my Pawpaws this spring. If I'd had them earlier,  I would have planted them last fall. I didn't want them to sprout one day, just to freeze dead the next.

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