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Looking for others who want to start an off-grid community in the Ozarks

 
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Hello to those reading this. This is my first post on this site, and I regrettably have only recently become active here.
I will start off with the short version, then continue with the longer version.

The short:

We (mainly myself and my wife), are moving to Missouri (SW to SC) this year with the goal of finding land on which to start building an off-grid life. Though we will if left with no choice, embark alone, we  would much rather be going into it with a core group of like-minded individuals/couples/families who are serious about pursuing this life. So we're looking for others who are interested in and committed to finding land together and building a life there, which, God-willing, will grow beyond just our generation.
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The long:

First, a quick introduction (which always feels awkward and difficult for me but nonetheless):
I'm 33, and my wife is 23. We currently live in Colorado. We are Christians. We enjoy the outdoors – hiking, backpacking, bushcrafting, foraging wild edibles and medicinal plants, hunting, etc. We love gardening and growing food, and my wife has learned a lot about herbal medicine, mushrooms, and caring for trees. I have a wide variety of interests and skills, but I mainly enjoy working with my hands. I love to create and build just about anything, but particularly more primitive crafts and methods. I don't think we can call ourselves experts on anything, but we're always striving to learn more.
We love connecting with people (though I am the more extroverted between the two of us), and ultimately I think the people are what really matter. I believe we as humans are meant to live in community, and that within the context of a close loving community is where we are able to live out the best and fullest version of ourselves.
And that's really the main thing we seek, is community. Everything else, in my view, is just a means to sustain that community.

What we want to create (in a nutshell):
In the earlier stages, a small group of individuals and/or families living in multiple small homes (or one large one) with shared common spaces such as a communal kitchen, dining area, hangout areas, firepit, etc.
Off-grid power sources for electrical needs, but also living with no electricity when and where reasonable.
Growing, raising, and hunting as much of our own food as possible
In the long-term, my dream would be to see the community grow to around 30 people, and perhaps eventually to 100. These are not random numbers and there are a sociological reasons for why 30 to 100 people is the ideal range for a “tribe” or community. Too much less, and the workload-to-reward ratio is tougher, and when you get much beyond 100, it becomes much harder to maintain a cohesive community and conflicts are harder to manage.
I see permaculture being an important component of the whole thing. Lots of fruit and nut trees, and other perennials, then our annuals. Ideally all irrigated from a pond and/or creek diversion or other method that requires no power.
Raising various kinds of animals for food and other purposes.
I see us continually improving our spaces and the land, and using regenerative farming techniques.
I see the place also becoming a sort of retreat center, where churches and other groups can come to hold events and spend time together, or rent out space for camping and airbnb. I would also see us running classes teaching a number of different skills – anything from welding to wilderness survival to herbal medicine, etc.
I see us spending our days working, laughing, crying, and eating together, and being involved in the greater surrounding community as much as we can.
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As for you:
In the beginning, I imagine us starting with a core group of 5 to 10 people. These people must be like-minded (by that I'm not saying that we're all clones, but we agree in the ways that really matter, and have generally similar world-views, perspectives, and goals) and serious enough to dedicate their time, energy, and money towards what we're trying to build.
If you resonate with any of the following , then perhaps you would be interested in reaching out and taking things to the next step.
You may be in the right place if -
 You are not contented with your current way of life. You think about your typical day-to-day life (which perhaps involves commutes to a 9-5 job, grocery store trips, rushing to do errands, lots of screens, little time for hobbies, less time outdoors, and most of all - a lack of community and time spent in meaningful connection), and are not content with continuing that forever.
- You're tired of being so busy with "life" that you have no time left to really live. Time for the things which matter more.
- You see the problems with our hyper-individualistic, lonely culture, and understand that it is contrary to human nature, that we are meant to truly live life with others. You want to spend more time with others and have deeper relationships and more shared experiences.
- You see the problems with our reliance on the industrial food systems, and want to establish freedom and independence by being more self-reliant with your food procurement
- You have connected the dots and see the direction society is moving, and you wish to establish a safeguard for your children and provide an alternate way of life for them.
- You understand that the lifestyle we seek (off-grid, homesteading, living in community, etc) is not necessarily easier. That it will require a lot of hard work and dedication, but that the potential rewards will make it worth it in the long-run and have the potential to provide far more fulfillment than our current way of life.

What we're we're looking for land:
We  love many things about Colorado (mainly the climate and the mountains, and the amount of public land), however we have slowly come to the realization that the life we want to create will likely never be possible in Colorado because of land costs, water rights, and other practical issues. Which is why we zoned in on the Ozarks, and eventually southern Missouri specifically.

What we're looking for in land:
-Probably a bare minimum of 20 acres, but more is certainly preferable as funds allow (the more people we have to contribute, the more we can theoretically get)
-At least one reliable water source, preferably a river/creek that flows year-round, but having a spring, a well, and/or a pond as well is obviously a plus (ponds can be built, and wells dug, but a river can't really be made).
-I personally would prefer mostly wooded, and my reasoning is this: it's an available resource for building (I plan to build my own house with traditional timber frame techniques), and it's easier to make there be less trees than to make there be more trees, simply put. The soil will likely require amendment regardless.
-Terrain which allows for reasonable construction of gravity-fed irrigation techniques and houses, etc. (not just a narrow strip on a steep hill with a creek at the bottom, for example)
-Within an hour, perhaps 2 hours max of Springfield, since that is where we plan to live untilable to transition to living full-time there
-no building codes or weird zoning restrictions that would be a hindrance to us building off-grid housing, and raising animals, or anything else we would reasonably want to do.
-A big plus would be bordering national forest


As  I close, understand that I'm the first to admit I don't have it all figured out (and probably never will), and in my book that's ok, and I don't expect you to have all the answers either.
I'm sure there's a lot I left out or didn't think of at the time of writing this, but hopefully I've at least communicated my vision enough for a basic understanding.
Now, if you've read this far and you're thinking that anything you've read sounds to “fanciful”, that it's just not realistic, that's fine but you're probably not what we're looking for right now.
Right now I'm not interested in those who want to make excuses for why this can't be made a reality. I'm interested in connecting with those who want to find reasons why it CAN be done. I'm looking for those who are bold enough to dream beyond what others tell them is possible.

One thing that I feel is worth mentioning: While I've never personally visited any of the other intentional communities, ecovillages, etc that I've encountered online, I often get the impression that they may not be particularly gun-friendly (I could be wrong). I do believe that this is a very important aspect. I strongly believe in the “warrior poet” ideology, that good men must also be dangerous men. I think having weapons not only for hunting, but also having men who are armed and proficient and of good character, who are able and willing to protect person and property is essential to any community. Without that, you're ultimately at the mercy of evil and malicious men. So if that makes you at all uncomfortable, then you may not be the right fit.

If you're still interested, please reach out to me and tell me briefly about yourself, why you're interested, what your vision is, and what skills, knowledge, and resources you can bring to the table, or ask any questions you'd like.
 
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Welcome to permies.  Hopefully others will read and resinate with what you seek and the area in which you seek it.  Also consider posting this in the regional section in the section that is relevent.  
 
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Hi, Brian! I'm in the Missouri Ozarks. The first thing you'll probably need to figure out is whether the community you're looking for needs to be in close physical access, or if you're good with mostly or entirely online. If you want to get together with your community, you'll need to figure out where you'll be, in relation to the lake. I'm on the northwest side. There are few bridges, and this lake is so big, the state of Missouri actually has more shoreline than California, because of it. It takes us about 4 hours to get to the southwest corner of the state, and nearly six hours to get to the southeast corner. St Louis and Kansas City (on opposite sides of the state) are about 6 hours apart. The exception, of course, is if you're able to get to meeting places by boat or private plane - but not everyone can.

It's a beautiful place, and I hope you'll love it as much as we do!

P.s. We're about 1.5hrs from Springfield, and almost dead center of the state. We're also retired and not looking for an intentional community, I just thought to help, with a couple tips.
 
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I'm about to buy 10 to 40 acres in southwest Missouri also. About 30 minutes from roaring river state park. I'll probably have a few of my friends doing something similar at my place. However if you aren't too far, we could do some trading and business
 
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Caleb Ricks wrote:I'm about to buy 10 to 40 acres in southwest Missouri also. About 30 minutes from roaring river state park. I'll probably have a few of my friends doing something similar at my place. However if you aren't too far, we could do some trading and business



Sounds good! Once we're in Missouri, I'll definitely reach out.
 
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Hi Brian,

I think we have a lot of the same ideas and hopes in the same area (Ozarks).  I would love to chat more.  I am a little under 3 hours from springfield.  Feel free to message me!
 
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43 acres a lot of it is wooded on paved rd. lined with lush trees various sizes as buffer & for privacy,  Mo. Ozarks on Salem Plateau in Mark Twain National Forest here, small town surrounded by several other small towns & 1 small city within 10 - 40 mins away, Springfield 1.5 hours away.  
Property has 2 deep wells (1 is solar powered)  possibility of digging shallow well next to greenhouse -evidence of low water table there,
barn w/lean to & several other storage buildings, 1 unoccupied energy efficient earth contact dwelling with asphalt tile floors, w/full bath with vanity, wall urinal, toilet, tub shower, no kitchen but can easily tie into bathroom plumbing to add kitchen sink base, 250 gal propane tank, propane wall heater, propane HWH, telephone hook up/internet svc, another home with wood & propane heat,  dairy farm nearby for raw cow & goat's milk & cow manure, beef rancher nearby for grass fed beef, organic farm near to get what veggies you didn't grow, 7 raised beds, green house, pond, black walnut trees abound, 3 apple trees, huge pear tree loaded with pears every year, huge chery trree loaded with cherries, oaks & various others, sime woods on ptoperty, fig trees, paw paw trees, blackberry bushes, ducks, geese, chickens fo
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r fresh eggs, rabbits for steady supply of PH neutral fertilizer.  Other plusses like deer & other wild life as rural Mo. goes but that's enough for now besides the most beautiful sun rises & sunsets.
 
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To Brian Parrish and Doctor Vic:

My name is Mark Steagall. I have 5+ years of gardening and 4 years livestock experience as well as having a library of information on different trades that I have experience in. I currently own my own landscaping, garden, and tree service business. My wife and I are pursuing a live on-site work/trade position or landshare opportunity. I specialize in low-budget survival gardening. We are both followers of Jesus Christ and subscribe to the warrior poet philosophy as well. If interested, please call/text Mark at Mowers&Growers 928-641-8565. Thank you for your time and consideration.
Regards,
Mark Steagall
 
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Hey, Brian my name is Hayden I live in Jackson TN and have had thoughts of the Marines but God has lead me to start an off grid lifestyle I am 21 and have many outdoor skills I'd love to come be a part of the family message me back thank you
 
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Hi Brian,  I am doing what you and you wife want to do, and am looking for young folks to join me.  I AM in SC Mo, about an hour from Springfield.  I have LOTS of experience with this lifestyle and have infrastructure for more people.  I also have an ad on here, about a farm to share.  There is a lot of info on it.  Feel free to look it up.  I am not off-grid but am waiting for my solar guy to continue the project.  This is really a great farm, and if you get around here, feel free to visit.  Lisa
 
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Lisa Rollens wrote:Hi Brian,  I am doing what you and you wife want to do, and am looking for young folks to join me.  I AM in SC Mo, about an hour from Springfield.  I have LOTS of experience with this lifestyle and have infrastructure for more people.  I also have an ad on here, about a farm to share.  There is a lot of info on it.  Feel free to look it up.  I am not off-grid but am waiting for my solar guy to continue the project.  This is really a great farm, and if you get around here, feel free to visit.  Lisa



Hi. Thanks for the response. I believe we already spoke through email earlier this year.
 
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Hi Brian!  We hope this message finds you and your Wife well.  The Date is Aug 22, 2024 and I just read your post.  I was already into this for 10 years as a Single Lady but could not find anyone at that time.  I am now since Married to a similar minded Man and we are just beginning this Journey toward looking for others to Homestead with in a CHRISTIAN community.  Greg has a good amount of skills and is a strong, tall Man 6 ft to be exact.  I am shorter but mighty (Portugese and Italian lol) and work like a Man.  We have been shown by the Lord that it is high time to get on the Boat so to speak.  We have many skills individually and combined (but are far from knowing it all).  MOST OF ALL, we are TRUSTWORTHY, honest and God fearing which is very hard to find these days.  We truly have a love and fear of God as due to respecting him, his morals and values as well as his love for humans, animals and the earth he created that Mankind is slowly destroying.  Please reach out to us here or feel free to Email us at gregcain7402@gmail.com.  Please put in SUBJECT LINE "Christian Off Grid".  I have a Solar Cooker which is called "Sol Cook" and have spoken with the Inventor.  It is awesome and I can learn it and then teach classes.  I also have in in depth knowledge of Herbs and Medicinal Plants.  We are productive folks that cut out all distractions to focus on what needs to be done.  We are extremely good with Finances and are strict in that area and have saved a decent amount to purchase land.  It has also been my dream to have a YURT and then another one and even learn to put them together (I am mechanically inclined for a Woman). It can be used as one source of income.  Greg has a CDL and is a former Truckdriver with mechanical skills, a bunch of tools, some hunting knowledge, has studied Bushcraft but hasn't gotten much time to practice it as he was trucking most of the time.  God gave him a dream in the night showing him that we are going up to the top toward true freedom.  We cannot do this alone and are looking also for others to be alongside us so that we can learn from one another.  We also are friendly Jack Dody of "ABUNDACULTURE" in Colorado who gives classes of SOLAR and Off Grid living and sustainability.  We have a deep interest in Solar and being able to use this God given resource to take us off dependence of both the Government & the Grid.  I have a desire to be a BEEKEEPER and harvest Jelly and honey for use and for sale and to have Chickens.  With all this being said, we hope to hear from you soon.  We are in our early 50's and very healthy and strong.

Sincerely,
Gregory & Jennifer
 
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Brian. I've been looking for someone exactly like you.
Email me! Whitebox041@gmail.com
 
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Hey there!  I feel like I wrote a lot of your message! I am wanting to go off grid so bad, but I don't think I can do it alone.  I have 3 small dogs, I have been in construction for over 30 years, a proud supporter of Amendment 2.  I can bring my building and repair skills.  I can also sew, forage, cook, and whatever else we need.  I have always been a hard worker and a very quick learner.  I would love to join a community where we are self sufficient and I only go into town when I would need to.  Just wondering if you all have started?  I live up by St. Louis right now and ready to move!!  Email me please!!  jenimugler@gmail.com
 
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Just as an update, we have been in Springfield, Missouri for a few months and are actively looking for land within three hours or so of there.
 
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Hi. I saw you direct attention to this post and thread, to see your focus.

I would want a place with others where I grow everything for what will be needed, for food, medicinal herbs, and material, with any being involved in this with me, with special strategy of compatible plants and natural farming methods, to be as fully independent from anything with civilization as possible. I am not near Missouri, though I am familiar with the country there from when I was a young boy. If I knew people I join would be compatible and I could do this with some others involved, I would go still to join with you there.
 
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