Christopher Shepherd wrote:Hello, this is my first post on any subject on any forum ever. I have been reading permies for a couple years. For 20 years my dad and I have been growing a thornless line of black berries. We live in north eastern Ohio. We have several patches on 2 farms, 4 miles apart. In 2016 we didn't get any berries at all. In 2018 there were few to be found. We loose all the second year growth and they start back from the crown. These berries only produce from 2 year old growth unlike our red and white rasberries. I thought maybe its the extra cold winters, but i am not sure. If it is, is there a way to protect them other than mulch and Rabbit poo?