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WineBaa, a muzzle to graze sheep in wineyards and orchards without destroying trees.

 
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WineBaa is a kind of muzzle which allows the sheep to graze, but only stuff on the ground. It can therefore replace herbicides in wineyards (orchards), and produce meat (among other benefits, like soil health) at the same time.

The website from the company
https://www.winebaa.com/

A youtube video from the company
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Wqsy7RIiM
In the comments of the video, someone states that when you order you do not get your stuff. I don't know. Anyway, the tool looks interesting, and not that difficult to make out of wire mesh. The balance may be tricky, though.

Anyone tried it?
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Please be advised, clicking the link gave a serious warning from my antivirus.

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<span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">The website is gone, and people reported losing money when they ordered. </span>
This seems to be a neat concept, but NOT a good company.

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And the video is gone off youtube

 
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Interesting. Wonder if it would slow down a goat?
 
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I heard from someone that some sheep learn to trick the muzzle. As goats are even more flexible and often more curious, maybe it won't work.
 
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I'd be concerned about chaffing around areas of contact. For occasional use I guess it could be a good tool, but I'd feel really bad for sheep if they had to endure that thing often.
 
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The Winebaa was a promissing device and David sounded a serious business Partner. We bought 30 Winebaas and tried them, and in communication with David addapted them but it just did not work. Our sheep learned within a half a day how to trick the WineBaa and ate the grapes. The just tipped it in the air and could eat what ever the wanted. So I decided to send them back and David told me that he would give a total refund. When I asked more specific who was going to pay the return from Portugal to Australia I did not anymore get an answer from him. He just avaporated from the internet and did not answer his mail. I pais in total €800.00 and the Winebaa's are laying in a box. For someone who wants I have made videos which prove that they just do not work.
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Does anyone has more contact details of David? I would like to ask him about the refund. Thanks
 
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Hubertus Lenders wrote:The Winebaa was a promissing device and David sounded a serious business Partner. We bought 30 Winebaas and tried them, and in communication with David addapted them but it just did not work. Our sheep learned within a half a day how to trick the WineBaa and ate the grapes. The just tipped it in the air and could eat what ever the wanted. So I decided to send them back and David told me that he would give a total refund. When I asked more specific who was going to pay the return from Portugal to Australia I did not anymore get an answer from him. He just avaporated from the internet and did not answer his mail. I pais in total €800.00 and the Winebaa's are laying in a box. For someone who wants I have made videos which prove that they just do not work.
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I have the same problem and I solve it including an elastic on the bottom of the muzzle to the neck collar and avoid that the sheep tripped in the air, i.e. the muzzle is all ways in pressure to the bottom and the sheep is obliged to eat on the floor. My sheep's continue to use it and it works.
Referring to the refund, I already contacted several Australian entities, newspapers, journalists etc and nobody answer. I found a contact on Facebook of Robert and wife, I've sent several messages but without answer.
Have you tried to receive your money by other means?
 
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About 2 years ago, we bought 2 muzzles from Winebaa to try in our vineyard. Unfortunately, they were too big to fit well, so we don't have a good idea if they could work. David promised they would soon make smaller models. But upon asking for them there was no way to get into contact anymore.
Do you know of any alternative product, Antonio?

The concept is great.
 
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Jeroen Nagtegaal wrote:About 2 years ago, we bought 2 muzzles from Winebaa to try in our vineyard. Unfortunately, they were too big to fit well, so we don't have a good idea if they could work. David promised they would soon make smaller models. But upon asking for them there was no way to get into contact anymore.
Do you know of any alternative product, Antonio?

The concept is great.



Hi,
The concept is great and I've tried to find something similar without success. I've tried to contact Robert and without success...and they keep my money without shipping my order of 10 units...
 
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Hi.
I'm from Uruguay. I ordered the winebaa but they never came. The website where they were sold is out of order. Could you tell me where should I go to request one?
Could someone sell me one of the ones they have? I am interested in knowing them. Thank you
 
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I would also interested in buying some of them.
 
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The website is gone, and people reported losing their money to the company as it went down.
This is a neat concept, but not a good company. If someone can figure out how to make them for themselves or to sell, that's great, but it looks like you can't order it from them.
 
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Hi everybody
I'm interested to have one sample of the winebaa. I wonder if anyone here is able sell me 1 or 2?
Qandily@gmail.com
Thanks
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The website is gone, and people reported losing money when they ordered.
This seems to be a neat concept, but NOT a good company.

 
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Hi,
Dear Antonio can you postsome photo of your modified muzzles? Thanks
I rekon the idea is superb, just need improvement.
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Andrea
Vineyard in England
 
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Good afternoon,
Do you happen to still have some ?
I would be very interested into buying some of yours to give it a try.
Looking forward to read you,
Kind regards.
 
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Hmmm.   I don't know anything about vineyards, but I grazed my Katahdin all the time in mature orchards.   They did a great job, and while they nibbled leaves at head height, they didn't damage bark or mature trees.  Baby trees might be a problem, but if you are just wanting to clean out an orchard understory I wouldn't hesitate with Katahdin.  They'll happily clean up poison ivy and knotweed too.  I think wool breeds do even less browsing than that and are more likely to stay on the ground anyway.   They'll also clean up old dropped fruit,  just don't let them overdo it at first if they aren't used to foraged fruits.  
 
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