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Not sure if this is happening to anyone else but when I refresh the permies forum page, it never says any posts are less than 3 hours old. When I use Chromium browser and refresh the same page, it shows many posts under 3 hours (or more). I am using the latest version of Firefox 72.0.1 (64-bit) and am running Linux Peppermint.
It has been happening now for about 4 days now. I remember something like this happening many years ago but can't remember what was causing it. Any ideas?
 
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Hi Gerry;
I started using Brave/ duckduckgo a few months back.  I haven't had any issues with it so far.
 
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Gerry Parent wrote:Not sure if this is happening to anyone else but when I refresh the permies forum page, it never says any posts are less than 3 hours old. When I use Chromium browser and refresh the same page, it shows many posts under 3 hours (or more). I am using the latest version of Firefox 72.0.1 (64-bit) and am running Linux Peppermint.
It has been happening now for about 4 days now. I remember something like this happening many years ago but can't remember what was causing it. Any ideas?


Hi Gerry - I am in Firefox too (latest version, i.e. up to date) and have noticed it behaving a bit oddly here too!

Whilst many threads show all the pages, I recently noticed that the 'what is your favourite herbal cold flu/remedy' is showing just one page i.e. page 2 when I know (for a fact) there was a previous page.  I posted on page 1 and the page now showing makes a reference to it!  Ed Bradley - who recently posted - talks of honey for sore throats, which I mentioned on page 1 so not sure if he is only accessing one page too!

Not sure what the cause is, i.e. if it is a glitch on this forum or not, since you recall a similar episode here previously....maybe needs investigating by admin???
 
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Thank you Amy for your observations. I'm certainly not attached to Firefox although I've really come to like the way you can easily configure how it looks. My main concern was if others out there were missing the latest posts thinking that there was nothing wrong. Perhaps last time it was just waiting for the next version to come out and solved the problem?
 
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I've been having issues using Permies with Firefox lately too. One day it was working normally, the next day I couldn't give apples or likes or use quick reply and some of the other buttons. I thought it was just my computer being weird, other sites are strange on Firefox sometimes too.
 
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I've downloaded and installed "Brave" web browser that Thomas recommended. Going to give it a try tonight when I have more time to fiddle with it. Haven't given up on Firefox yet, but always good to have one or two backup browsers anyways.
 
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I have tried rectifying this issue by accessing this site in Google Chrome - still same problem!  😕
 
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Deleting the profile is what I had to do when I had firefox to get it to mind, but then you loose your favorites, best to save them before you do that.


But I switch over to Vivaldi browser myself and I love it.

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I noticed firefox updated last week and acting weird with several sites afterwards.  Then it updated again and purged my cookies - it seems okay now.  

No problem with chrome or duckduckgo.
 
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Mart Hale wrote:Deleting the profile is what I had to do when I had firefox to get it to mind, but then you loose your favorites, best to save them before you do that.


Instead of deleting my default profile, I found that if I just created another one and imported my bookmarks into that profile, then it worked! Thank you for the answer Mart!
In case this has happened to someone else, here's the link to how to change or delete your profile in firefox: how to change profile
FYI, I went and purged all my cookies and when I went back into Permies.com, the last post still said 4 hours ago. So I guess it wasn't a cookies thing for me R.
Anyways, problem solved and I can move on.... Thanks for everyone's input!
 
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I've been using Firefox for a while, and with every new 'upgrade' it uses more memory and is ever more bloated.
The lasted version won't give the option to stop any more updates which defeated the whole object of open source software.
By uninstalling Firefox completely and reloading a previous version it now works so much faster.
Just remember to check the never check for updates button on the older version before you connect to the internet or you're back to square one.
 
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Neil Binderman wrote:I've been using Firefox for a while, and with every new 'upgrade' it uses more memory and is ever more bloated.
The lasted version won't give the option to stop any more updates which defeated the whole object of open source software.
By uninstalling Firefox completely and reloading a previous version it now works so much faster.
Just remember to check the never check for updates button on the older version before you connect to the internet or you're back to square one.


Whilst this might solve the problem, by not getting updates of a browser surely you risk its safety?  I am not techno savvy but I am extrapolating the situation from Microsoft no longer supporting, i.e. providing updates for Windows 7.  By not receiving further/ongoing patches we are told that it compromises the safety of Windows 7, laying it more vulnerable to viruses.  Would this be the case too by not receiving updates from a previous version of Firefox?  (Hopefully, at least, you have good anti viral software!)

Also, I'm not convinced that this is just a Firefox problem since I encountered the same issue in Google Chrome, as previously posted.
 
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Amy,  Whenever a piece of software (no matter how much I have come to like and depend on it) starts going the way Neil described or when it begins to feel like more of a burden than it does a useful tool, I tend to look for alternatives. Firefox for me is going in that direction. Although I run it on Linux, security issues are still a concern so I probably will stick with the updates feature but may end up using another as my default browser if things continue to decline.
So far Chromium (not Chrome) has not had any issues for me.
As R Ranson pointed out, she is not having any issues with Chrome so perhaps its something more local to your system?
 
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Gerry Parent wrote:Amy,  Whenever a piece of software (no matter how much I have come to like and depend on it) starts going the way Neil described or when it begins to feel like more of a burden than it does a useful tool, I tend to look for alternatives. Firefox for me is going in that direction. Although I run it on Linux, security issues are still a concern so I probably will stick with the updates feature but may end up using another as my default browser if things continue to decline.
So far Chromium (not Chrome) has not had any issues for me.
As R Ranson pointed out, she is not having any issues with Chrome so perhaps its something more local to your system?



OK - I take on board what you are saying, but can you explain why the same issue presents itself in Google Chrome for me and not for yourself and R. Ranson?  The suggestion is that it's to do with my set up so I would like to sort it if I can.  I have Norton anti viral software and am in Windows 10 (unfortunately!)
 
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The developers update permies once a week or so, so it might be an outdated cookie that is preventing the page from refreshing.

I too run Norton.  Are your Norton plugins for chrome up to date?  

Did you clean your cash/cookies/browser history?  I try to do this once a week, but I really should do it daily.  After using the browser to clean the history, I run something like CrapCleaner and then the Norton Cleaner.  Then do a backup.  This gets rid of most issues.  Once every month or two, I do a driver update either manually through windows or a driver update software.  It's important to make sure these security/update programs are up to date or they tend to miss guck on the hard drive.

As a side note: I've had Windows 10 from the start and I only had it crash once (thanks Adobe).  The big thing I don't like about it is when it tries to anticipate my needs - but I turned off all that early on so it runs a lot like seven (only without the blue screen).



To discover if the error is with permies, we need to be able to reproduce it consistently.  Basically, we need to say to the developer: press this series of buttons in this specific order and you get this weird behaviour.  Then the developer can say "oh, yes, I can do that too.  Now I can see what's wrong and find out how to fix it."  But if he/she can't reproduce the error on their computer, then it's really hard to find the fix.  This is why we're asking lots of questions and asking and working through the troubleshooting.
 
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