what is a really good email service?

Mike Haasl wrote:I tried the free proton mail but I couldn't find a way to import contacts to it.

craig howard wrote: I have  a hotmail address and have been getting notices from permies.
So soon I can only read the posts but not contribute?

paul wheaton wrote:
So the question is:  do you want to use an email service that blocks 20% of your legit email?  

paul wheaton wrote:How much do they want for the IMAP stuff?

paul wheaton wrote:Outlook is shit.   Maybe you should explore replacing outlook.

paul wheaton wrote:I haven't used an email reader (like outlook or thunderbird) in years.  I just use the web interface.

paul wheaton wrote:

craig howard wrote: I have  a hotmail address and have been getting notices from permies.
So soon I can only read the posts but not contribute?

FYI - if i send email to anybody with a hotmail, msn, or any email server with ms involved, account, it gets bounced.  It does not go to your spam - it is bounced with a message about permanent failure.  And when our email experts jump through all the hoops with ms to fix it, we discover that their fix stuff is broken.  This is not the permies server, but my richsoil email account.    So, i think it is just a matter of time until permies is rejected and thousands of other legit domains are also rejected.  

So the question is:  do you want to use an email service that blocks 20% of your legit email?  

Anne Miller wrote:I have been using yahoo since about 1995 more or less.  I have several accounts with them.  As long as I use Basic Yahoo I am very happy.  I have no reason to have a paid account.

r ranson wrote:

I miss DOS.  

T Simpson wrote:

Anne Miller wrote:I have been using yahoo since about 1995 more or less.  I have several accounts with them.  As long as I use Basic Yahoo I am very happy.  I have no reason to have a paid account.

I would stay away from Yahoo especially since the 2016 breach that affected ALL users leaking passwords and security questions.

I don't know if you can still apply for a claim but if you have had a Yahoo account between 2012 and 2016 and live in the US the class action lawsuit can claim you a chunk of the $117.5 million breach settlement which could be up to $25,000.

Anne Miller wrote:

T Simpson wrote:

Anne Miller wrote:I have been using yahoo since about 1995 more or less.  I have several accounts with them.  As long as I use Basic Yahoo I am very happy.  I have no reason to have a paid account.

I do not have a reason to stay away from yahoo.  I don't see how the 2016 breach affected any of my 5 email accounts. If it had I am positive I would know since 5 or 6 years have passed.

The thing is hackers likely got the hash tables for all the user's password and security question data. That is Yahoo's fault for not securing the data.

When hackers have the hash tables that can then brute force through trial and error find out what password corresponds to what encrypted hash on modern GPUs over 2 MILLION potential passwords can be tested every second. (if you password has a word/name/1234 even more likely to be tested for algorithmically).

Once the hackers find the password that correlates to the hash they can then begin checking it against email addresses (which in this case they have).

Then once the hackers gain access to an email account they can sell that information to thief's that will use the access to your email account to gain access to your other accounts (banks, social media etc.) . If you share passwords between online accounts it is worse since the hackers also likely sold your passwords as well.

IF you had 12 character long passwords containing no words with a mix of letters, numbers and symbols THEN it is likely the hash stolen from yahoo has not been cracked and you are fine (although you should change your passwords since it is a matter of time).

This is one of the biggest cyber attacks in history, I recommend taking it seriously. Maybe you are not affected yet or maybe you are. It is a matter of time.

 

paul wheaton wrote:If permies stops working with ms email stuff, then all accounts with those emails will be required to use a different email - something that works.  

And from what I have heard, it seems like ms stuff is already not working with a lot of stuff.  

So, again, the question is:  do you want to use an email service that blocks 20% of your legit email?