also cause i live in MIchigan..my maters and peppers are in a greenhouse..it is 6x8 and that is basically nearly all i grow in it in the summertime..besides rosemary and basil too.
i just got the soaker hoses hooked up this week and it is so nice to not have to water in there..just flip a switch and let it soak..
Watering tomato plants in containers or my sandy soil is pretty much a wash. The containers dry out fast on a really hot day. Especially once the plants are big. Sometimes, I wish we didn't like garden fresh tomatoes so much!
I usually use soaker hoses on the tomatoes, they're great!
you may have more problems with disease with them being planted in the same place. but I wonder if that might be a benefit to your soil? since it can dry out so thoroughly fungus and bacterial disease might have a harder time making it through dry periods there.
plastic mulch might help slow downt the perk rate and help keep some of your nutrients where you want them.
"manure man" or "compost carl". he needs to wear a brown cape, muck boots, and have a big C for compost on his chest and his typical pose must be atop a huge pile of poo composting.
hmmm. what should his super powers be? he should be able to turn the largest compost piles in a jif by flying around them in a blur. effective micro organisms should shoot from his fingers ( kinda like the web from spider man?).......oh......and his pinky finger should extend into a large thermometer for checking the internal temp of a pile.
This appears to be swiss chard man, not exactly what you are looking for I guess. How about putting a cape on "permie man" Paul?
I want to be Tomato Girl! The dark side of Tomato Girl is...you guessed it...Killer Tomato Girl!
(old "B" movie reference. Surely someone on here will remember
"Attack of the Killer Tomatoes!")
Compost superhero cape must be able to turn into a shovel head so he can scoop up a pile of compost on his back, fly by & deliver it where ever & whenever it's needed!
There's no need to fear...Compost Carl is here!!!
Didn't you see "The Incredibles"? Capes are sooooo 20 years ago.
"help! help! " (swooning with back of hand on forehead in the garden)
"oh no, spinach for dinner again?"
I have a question about mulching plants in general. Most of what you read says to keep the mulch back from the stems of the plants at least an inch. I'm just curious if permies follow this rule, or if it really doesn't make that much difference.
Also, does anyone pinch suckers off their tomato plants (there are various theories about doing so) or do you just let them be?
Yup, I knew that you could root suckers, tip cuttings, etc. from tomatoes. Because of limited space and a long growing season, I prefer to grow interdeterminate tomatoes so I can get tomatoes until frost. This year I mistakenly bought a determinate variety that was mis-marked. So I had them and bought more interdeterminate plants. Had more plants than I needed, so planted some out at the barn, no more room here!
This evening I'm going to move my mulch a little bit and rake up more pine needles. Unfortunately, my plants will probably be in limbo for a while, since it's so hot out. I just couldn't get them any sooner this year. Have to be careful out in the heat, but I'm a much healthier person in the summer than in the winter. I need the lengthy daylight for my mental health! Today, tomorrow and the day after are my favorite days of the year! I just don't get those "Summertime Blues"!
Last year I did my best, started seeds myself and the plants were the worst ever. All the heavy rain we got last spring didn't help much. Had many tomatoes that I was cutting ugliness off of, but eating the rest. We don't care how it looks, as long as it tastes good!
Anyhoo, I'm glad I don't have to pinch anything, just gonna let em' grow!
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I think the creation of a cartoon superhero is in order. ...hmmm. what should his super powers be?
When I went to grad school, Homestar Runner was popular. One of the characters there is named The Poopsmith.
He doesn't speak, and none of the other characters (except maybe his boss) understand his work. Even the creators of the character apparently don't get that some benefit might result from smiting poop...
He seems to be a character ripe for co-option.
The idea is to help the plant be as healthy and robust as possible, just like a person with a strong immune system can avoid sickness.
I would say the calcium has made the biggest difference.
The cherry tomato plants dropped a bunch of foliage over a month ago. It was weird, kinda happened overnight. Thought a gopher got the plant, but then the foliage started growing back & it set more fruit.
I've done more research and I really need to amend my soil more if I'm going to continue planting the same type of plant in the same place, year after year. In my case, soil prep is key. Getting the plants in the ground sooner would help! I definitely dropped the ball there, this year.
Going to take wyldthang's advice about the calcium, but probably won't use eggshells, just don't have enough of them to make a difference. I'm assuming that watering at the base refers to supplemental watering, which is the way I do it, but mother nature waters from the top! ...with a vengeance! Geeze! Here's some pix, though nothing to get too excited about.
the gold and orange were fine..easy to tell ripe..as they fell off the vine when dead ripe..they were paste tomatos of the mama variety ..golden mama...etc.
the seedless also were fine..more meaty..but the colors were fun to try ..anyway..pretty in jars and sauces (chunky fresh sauces)
I just used composted manure and a mulch of pulled weeds around my tomatoes in regualr soil..our soil was great soil though as when we had our house put in it was backfilled around it and the drainfield from the topsoil out of our field where our pond was dug..it was a deep mix of clay, loam, sand, sod, etc..and we add composted manure and sheet mulch with plants, chips and other organic material all the time.
also i water with a soaker hose.
i am beginning to get some small blemishes on the tomatos now..like 1/4" circles that appear to be a bruise..might be from the super cold weather..
we had another frost last night..and they say now our weather will turn toward fall with cold coming in and wet the end of the week here..highs expected by Mon thru Wed around 66
I've read that the gas given off by other ripening fruits helps the tomatoes get going. I've mostly used bananas for this, but have used pears & apples too. Keeping them in a warm place helps and whenever possible I set them in the sun. The angle of the sun is so low these days, my plants are getting very little sun. So I've been picking the tomatoes as soon as they start turning & helping them along in the process.
Officially, we've not had a freeze yet, but it looks like we are going to get close in a couple of days. I'm debating about throwing some plastic over the plants to eek a little more out of them. We'll see. Before a serious freeze, I'll pick the most decent greenies that are left & continue my enhanced ripening process. I know there's recipes for green tomatoes, but I'd rather them ripe if possible!
The gas the ripening fruit gives off helps trigger the ripening of the tomato. Seems like it takes a few weeks if the are totally green. I brought some in that started turning orange while outside and they didn't take as long. Keeping the container of tomatoes in a warm place helps too. They can even get some sun, you just have to be careful they don't cook. I have done this every winter for the past 6 yrs, maybe more. We love our December tomatoes!
Tried to google about alternative growing methods, but like there is no alternative? Do you all train your tomatos?
No stakes, no mulch, nothing. As of now, it looks like I will get my first tomato off of them in a day or two, and they are loaded with smaller ones. supporting helps, but it is not a necessity.
Do they rot in contact with the ground? Could you post some photo, please?
Drug Mile wrote:
Do they rot in contact with the ground? Could you post some photo, please?
My guess is that they do, from what I've seen in my own and others' gardens. Critters also have more chance to bite them.