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Plant circles around drip lines of big (fruit) trees?

 
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Since we have our plots of land we can't wait the time when we are due to start.
The ideas are a food forest but having also annuals in rotation.

The 7 layers are clear if we would chuck perennials under the tree and let them grow on their own out of the drip lines of the tree when the tree grows bigger.

A bit of a commercial idea is that we surround some of our big trees with ring beds for annual plants, just outside of the drip lines of the canopy.

Splitting these in 4 segments and have so also a four directions from sunny to shade covered.

We see a lot of advantages like the rain water what drips from the tree is used
if irrigation is necessary the tree will benefit as well
shade and non shade plants get their spot
nutrients not used by the annuals will benefit the tree
plant rotation will keep the disease and pest level low
shading the root tip area for the trees
the tree will be mulching the beds nonstop with dropped leaves

It's actually a plant circle just a bit more tidy and directed to generate a controlled income as we speak..

Sound a bit like wishful thinking?


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There are videos of some great Food Forests set up as commercial operations. I cannot remember the links but somebody may remember
 
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Well,
before asking questions sometimes Google has the answer.

Veggies can grow near trees but should be at a "safe distance" to avoid competition and root damages.

Raised beds are a total "no go" and will eventually choke and kill your tree slowly.

Thee roots are going far further than said.
My rule of thumb was always where the drip line ends the roods will end,
but in reality some tree's roots can grow three times the diameter of the crown.

Some veggies like Garlic & Co are beneficial to eliminate diseases.
Nettles are great around trees as they attract beneficial insects.

OK, that screams literally for more research and so back to permaculture without inventing the wheel new..

anyone has any outstanding successes with veggies around your trees?
 
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The only veggie I've planted under trees was bush beans under a peach tree, and they produced well. I've heard multiple people talk about growing peas and beans by trees. I'm thinking crops that aren't such heavy feeders would do fine, like herbs and maybe some greens. Swiss chard, endive, and mustard are on the "light feeder" lists.
 
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I feel this is a great conservation idea.

Let the trees help water the plants.

Also like, Nikki suggested planting beans for their nitrogen fixing abilities.
 
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I have one of my annual vegetable beds at the drip line one eastern edge of a large mulberry tree, but the tree is pruned high to cast less shade. Some fruit and leaves fall into the bed and add nutrients and moisture. The fallen fruit attracts worms, insects of all sorts, birds, and the odd rat, so it is quite a diverse ecosystem. I also use branch trimmings and fall leaves as mulch. Downside is needing to hoe/pull the prolific mulberry seedlings the come up in the bed. They are not so hard to deal with in a small home garden, though.
 
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