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green lynx spider, peucetia viridans and her spiderlings, the next generation!

 
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Judith, I tried to adopt some spider like you do and found a pair of goldenrod crab spiders living in the marigold plants. In the morning I usually saw carcasses of nocturnal moths nearby. In early October the female was like a balloon. She disappeared for a few days and came back smaller. I haven't seem them for over a week now. Maybe they already hit the end of the life cycle since freeze will kill them. It's quite amazing the green lynx spider is still so active so late in the season in your area.

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Carla Burke wrote:Here's an interesting page I found, with a comparison of male & female: https://bugguide.net/node/view/2032



Thanks for finding this!

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May Lotito wrote:Judith, I tried to adopt some spider like you do and found a pair of goldenrod crab spiders living in the marigold plants. In the morning I usually saw carcasses of nocturnal moths nearby. In early October the female was like a balloon. She disappeared for a few days and came back smaller. I haven't seem them for over a week now. Maybe they already hit the end of the life cycle since freeze will kill them. It's quite amazing the green lynx spider is still so active so late in the season in your area.



Now I have to try to look for them next year!

The only other one I have tried to observe was a green and black garden spider but I wasn't consistant enough...the lynx is right by the house where we walk many times a day.

Green lynx seem to take the cold just fine...last year the babies were out frequently in freezing temps and only disappeared when the leaf they were on and their egg case disintigrated completely into january, maybe later?

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They're here!!!
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Yay!! Happy Birthday, Grandbabies!!!

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And not much later they went back inside...you can see just two or three on the lower left of the egg case (and a pile of shed skins to the left of them).
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More spiderlings out today...complete with dinner waiting in the wings
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What is it about that plant that makes it everyone's reproductive mecca???

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Carla Burke wrote:What is it about that plant that makes it everyone's reproductive mecca???




We think she has some way of attracting grasshoppers and then maybe stuns them when they're in spitting distance?

It's a high bush blueberry that I had intended to take cuttings from at dormacy but if this is like last year the egg case and young will be hanging on into january.

I was able to lift the dahlia tubers after the freeze without disturbing her.

We've looked and looked at the elderberrys and hazelnuts across the path where they were last year in case there was another survivor with an egg case as it doesn't seem like their territory is more than spitting distance.

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Clearer photos of shed skins, esp. if zoomed in.
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Well, you know.....Baby Pictures!


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Those babies seem to be growing fast. Mom must be feeding them well!

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She could not pay me enough, to be nanny -or cook - to that many babies...

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Jay Angler wrote:Those babies seem to be growing fast. Mom must be feeding them well!



Have not seen any indication she's feeding them at all although I don't see her eating more than every few weeks...maybe it's all happening at night?

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Carla Burke wrote:She could not pay me enough, to be nanny -or cook - to that many babies...



I know
I'm going to have to check out what's happening at night...maybe she's taking long walks or something.

They seem well mannered and never climbing on her like some young spiders I seem to remember seeing?

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The babies are well cared of and growing so fast! Compared to last year's pictures, the spiderlings are almost one month ahead this time.  And they will have plenty of warm days and foods left.  I am wondering what happened to the mother spider last year, hopefully she didn't have to sacrifice herself. Matriphagy is observed in some species of spiders, at least there is no report on green lynx spider.

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May Lotito wrote:The babies are well cared of and growing so fast! Compared to last year's pictures, the spiderlings are almost one month ahead this time.  And they will have plenty of warm days and foods left.  I am wondering what happened to the mother spider last year, hopefully she didn't have to sacrifice herself. Matriphagy is observed in some species of spiders, at least there is no report on green lynx spider.


May,
Last year she just wandered off...we saw her lower and lower on the plant and it was Tereza, I think, who read where they just go off and die when their work is finished.

We have not seen this but wonder if they are eating egg cases and shed skins?
There are clumps of skins that seem to disappear eventually and I don't find them lower on the plant.
Matriphagy...new word!

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Judith Browning wrote:May,
Last year she just wandered off...we saw her lower and lower on the plant and it was Tereza, I think, who read where they just go off and die when their work is finished.



My guess there, is from utter exhaustion.

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There is a visiting tiny spider in the 2nd, 3rd and 5th photo on the underside of a horizontal leaf at the left...might be a tiny jumping spider about the size of the lynx kids.  It was scurrying away when I saw it
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Run, little guy! RUN!!

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Three notable observations...
A katidid sat near by for a while and flew off unharmed soon after I took my fuzzy photo.

Mama lynx is tieing more blueberry branches into the shelter.
She has been spreading out her silk network for awhile and we think this is how she is able to reel in the branches?

And Steve thinks the tiny jumping spider in my last post of photos could have killed a spiderling but must have seen THE MOM.
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This afternoon I noticed a silk running from the egg case area to the clothes line.

Following it out I found a small spider on a clothes pin and another running along the line.

The orange line in one photo shows the distance...we measured 7 feet

She, mama lynx, is wrapped around the egg case and much skinnier today than yesterday (I added another photo of her to yesterday's post to show the difference).  

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These were taken during breaks in a total of 6" of rain...some hard downpours...and wind.

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Over night she did this...
Protecting her young?








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Whoah!! Busy gal!! It's beautiful!

"The only thing...more expensive than education is ignorance."~Ben Franklin
"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light." ~ Plato

 
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Carla Burke wrote:Whoah!! Busy gal!! It's beautiful!



It is!
I'd love a shelter like that

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