• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Carla Burke
  • Nancy Reading
  • r ranson
  • John F Dean
  • Timothy Norton
  • paul wheaton
  • Jay Angler
stewards:
  • Pearl Sutton
  • Anne Miller
  • Tereza Okava
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
gardeners:
  • M Ljin
  • Matt McSpadden
  • Megan Palmer

Cell towers and purchasing land?

 
gardener
Posts: 527
Location: Rocky Mountains, USA
316
homeschooling forest garden building writing woodworking homestead
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
We are currently looking for land, and I was curious what people's opinions are of cell towers?
1) Would you say they an immediate disqualifier?
2) If so, what would you consider the minimum "safe" distance you would need to be away from one?
3) Is there a situation where being closer is better?  (That is, the antenna horns focus out, not down.)
4) Or anyting else you want to add to the convo... :)

Of course any metrics or studies you can share along with that would also be most helpful.
 
Steward of piddlers
Posts: 6374
Location: Upstate NY, Zone 5, 43 inch Avg. Rainfall
3147
monies home care dog fungi trees chicken food preservation cooking building composting homestead
  • Likes 6
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
In my mind cell towers make good tenants IF you are okay with everything attached. Look into the physical tower imprint on your proposed property and what it takes for right-away maintenance from the tower company. The devil is in the details of the contract. I do not have one on my property but a good friend has an existing one on his. It is out of the way in a spot that isn't utilized.
 
master steward
Posts: 7741
Location: southern Illinois, USA
2864
goat cat dog chicken composting toilet food preservation pig solar wood heat homestead composting
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
All other things being equal, I would rather not have one on my property. But, unless you are looking at many acres, it is probably a moot point.   I don’t have one on my property, but my neighbor has one.  So, in my mind, there is little difference.
 
pollinator
Posts: 5520
Location: Canadian Prairies - Zone 3b
1522
  • Likes 5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Personally, I wouldn't see it as an automatic deal breaker. The revenue can be nice, but if it was in my face and in my way, it would give me pause.

There's a useful and vigorous discussion in this thread:

https://permies.com/t/204755/lease-space-cell-tower-homestead
 
pollinator
Posts: 191
69
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I'm a purist, from an aesthetical point of view I wouldn't consider a piece of property with a cell tower or any other type of utility infrastructure.
If I'm not mistaken most cell towers would have lighting on them, which would be at the very least annoying at night. Then of course as mentioned there is the right of way issue.
If possible I would suggest buying a piece of property where nothing of that sort can even be seen.
However that's just my opinion some people aren't bothered by that type of intrusion.
 
master steward
Posts: 14000
Location: Pacific Wet Coast
8306
duck books chicken cooking food preservation ungarbage
  • Likes 6
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Timothy Norton wrote: The devil is in the details of the contract.

And one of those details is cost - including inflation - of removal if the technology advances and the company no longer wants it. Make sure that money is set aside for that in case the company goes bankrupt which is one approach many companies take when they have a large liability and don't want to have to pay for it.

Have a look at old hydro towels that have collapsed in ice-storms to see what sort of a mess you could be left with. These things have life-spans. Friends had a typical TV tower which almost ever house had in the 70's, and it came down in a storm and luckily it didn't wreck anything important. They can be surprisingly heavy, and commercial ones will be heavier yet.
 
pollinator
Posts: 3828
Location: Massachusetts, Zone:6/7 AHS:4 GDD:3000 Rainfall:48in even Soil:SandyLoam pH6 Flat
559
2
forest garden solar
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
How big is the cell tower?
How much land are you purchasing?
How far would your house be from the cell tower?
What are the pros that would make you want this land vs another similar size/price parcel? Does it have hydro? Already zoned for what you want to do? Income stream? Is it cheaper? Does it already have a road/utility/a shack/shed?

What are some of the liability other than the usual of company can do whatever they want within a 50ft right of way, including spraying, cutting down things, and the extra dose of radiation on a long term basis vs just when you are driving by one on the highway.
 
Oh sure, it's a tiny ad, but under the right circumstances, it gets bigger.
The new gardening playing cards kickstarter is now live!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paulwheaton/garden-cards
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic