• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nancy Reading
  • Carla Burke
  • r ranson
  • John F Dean
  • paul wheaton
  • Pearl Sutton
stewards:
  • Jay Angler
  • Liv Smith
  • Leigh Tate
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • Timothy Norton
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Jeremy VanGelder
  • Maieshe Ljin

Uses for stone and rock from digging.

 
master gardener
Posts: 4249
Location: Upstate NY, Zone 5, 43 inch Avg. Rainfall
1721
monies home care dog fungi trees chicken food preservation cooking building composting homestead
  • Likes 10
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Something I can't avoid when working the soil are rocks.

Big rocks, little rocks, red rocks, blue rocks, flat rocks, and round rocks! We have boulders and we have pebbles. Some days it feels like the ground is more rock than dirt!

Anyway, what do you do with all of your rocks?

I have created a system for my homestead due to the small size. I made a sieve 2"x3" out of scrap 2x4s and 1/4 galvanized mesh I had leftover from the chicken run. I'll scoop the dirt and pour it into the mesh. I'll filter out the rocks/weeds that way, anything small that falls through is fine for me.

Small rocks get put near the base of the foundation out to the roof drip line. I don't have gutters and this seems to help keep the ground from getting overly beat up. It also conveniently spaces my mulch away from my house and gives a nice little delineation.  

Large rocks get added to my never-ending rock wall project. My front two gardens are 'complete' and established but I have started in the back gardens to separate the lawn from the gardens. It also holds back the mulch as well from sliding into the lawn.

What do you do with stone?
Stonewall.jpg
Large in the front, small in the back.
Large in the front, small in the back.
 
master gardener
Posts: 3289
Location: Carlton County, Minnesota, USA: 3b; Dfb; sandy loam; in the woods
1603
6
forest garden trees chicken food preservation cooking fiber arts woodworking homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 9
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I mostly don't have large rocks and for now, the rule is that we toss them at the base of the nearest "keeper" tree. Maybe they're providing mulch services in the meantime and they'll be easy to find if we find a use for them.

And for future crosslinking purposes, here's a similar thread I started a couple years ago (that you've already seen).
 
rocket scientist
Posts: 6322
Location: latitude 47 N.W. montana zone 6A
3199
cat pig rocket stoves
  • Likes 9
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hi Tim;
It looks like you're doing a fine job of dealing with your rocks.
Do you have field fences around your property?
One great use for excess stone is to build a cage around corner posts (Or any post).
Toss any extra stone in the cage to fill it up, this will help your fences stand straight and true.
It also helps with livestock (cattle) leaning against the fence to eat that good grass that grows on the other side...
Or as you are in the N.E. perhaps continue the hundreds of years of tradition of placing stacked stone walls around your fields...
What's that Tim? You do not have any fields???  No Cattle??? A nice little home in suburbia with a postage-stamp yard, and you have a cat???
Ha Ha, around here, I just make a pile out of the way, you never know when you might want a certain size or shape rock.
 
Timothy Norton
master gardener
Posts: 4249
Location: Upstate NY, Zone 5, 43 inch Avg. Rainfall
1721
monies home care dog fungi trees chicken food preservation cooking building composting homestead
  • Likes 6
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I'm right on the border of New England proper which means dry stack stone fences for miles!

I actually am inspired to make them because of all the ones that I see. I however don't have field to plow up tons of stones so I am limited to my small footprint and nearby.

Fun fact, my family has hunted the same public land for years that is a mountain covered in trees in the modern era. It contains dozens upon dozens of 'plots' delineated by stone fences from a far ago time. If I have my timing correct, I believe a good chunk of them came from Merino wool craze in the 1830's that spread out from Vermont.  
 
steward
Posts: 16058
Location: USDA Zone 8a
4272
dog hunting food preservation cooking bee greening the desert
  • Likes 8
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Dear hubby dumps them in the pond.

The pond will not hold water except after a torrential rainstorm otherwise it is just a giant hole in the ground.

I like the looks of your flowerbed.

I made some though dear hubby picked up all the rocks and threw them in the pond.

 
Posts: 56
4
  • Likes 9
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I recommend looking up on youtube Hawaiian/Polynesian rock stacking techniques. The way they do it takes more rocks but makes solid formations that have lasted hundreds of years through many tropical storms and a few hurricanes here and there. I worked a job where they were making their own terrace walls from all the rocks in the land there, the walls were falling down so that's how I came to research and rebuild them solid.  The way they talk about the rocks makes gives a nice perspective that makes working with them funner as well.
 
Posts: 173
30
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Proper (galvanized, quality) gabion cages. I use them for all kinds of things in my extremely rocky terrain.

I recently cleared a large area for an orchard and put up probably ~50' of 5'x3'x2' cages. I use them for wind breaks and to create landscape boundaries.
 
steward and tree herder
Posts: 8385
Location: Isle of Skye, Scotland. Nearly 70 inches rain a year
3974
4
transportation dog forest garden foraging trees books food preservation woodworking wood heat rocket stoves ungarbage
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

George Booth wrote:I recommend looking up on youtube Hawaiian/Polynesian rock stacking techniques. The way they do it takes more rocks but makes solid formations that have lasted hundreds of years through many tropical storms and a few hurricanes here and there. I worked a job where they were making their own terrace walls from all the rocks in the land there, the walls were falling down so that's how I came to research and rebuild them solid.  The way they talk about the rocks makes gives a nice perspective that makes working with them funner as well.



Thank you for this lead.

source

Also called uhau humu pōhaku. I'm amazed what they can do with quite rounded stones. The above link appears to give some working chants too.
 
George Booth
Posts: 56
4
  • Likes 8
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
In case anyone doesn't understand from the image or doesn't watch any videos explaining it. One of the most important aspects can be seen in the image where if you look at what would be the "face" of the wall they never use the largest "face" of the rocks they are stacking, rather the opposite as that's what gives the walls so much structure.
 
pollinator
Posts: 701
Location: Sierra Nevada Foothills, Zone 7b
154
dog forest garden fish fungi trees hunting books food preservation building wood heat homestead
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
One thing that someone showed me a while ago that I was doing wrong is that if you are building a retaining wall you want the top layer to be big rocks, not little ones. Their weight holds the wall together and down.
 
This tiny ad is made of adobe
A rocket mass heater is the most sustainable way to heat a conventional home
http://woodheat.net
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic