Poor polly's poll - save the name RMH

Feel free to ignore this thread.  I am starting it mostly in jest because I'm on these boards infrequently and this time I saw I need to begin a thread in order to get all the little green checks like a good girl on the scavenger hunt bit of my profile, so here goes.  

hashtag goal-oriented.  hashtag cheese.

I was uber involved in thinking a new name for the RMH would be good, but now I've burned out changed my mind.  FBOW I married 'rocket' and I think more and more it's shortform for the concept amongst newbies.  Why smoke out the view muddy the waters?

Check these out - not the total concept but warm close - right?  I was on fyre pretty excited when I first saw them.  That said I am not a camp gear fanatic so perhaps they've been on people's hot list around for ages and I had no clue.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Wood-Burning-Rocket-Camping-Stove-for-Outside-Cooking-Survival-12-7-x-12-7-x-11-4in-Stainless-Steel-F-BRK6081-SS1/324864861

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Protable-Rocket-Stove-Wood-Burning-with-High-Fuel-Efficiency-for-Outside-Bonfire-Backyard-Cooking-12-7-x-12-7-x-11-4in-THT140-BK/329366962

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Portable-Stainless-Steel-Multi-Fuel-Camping-Stove-UK0220LC02/329682918



‘Sides, if we don't hang onto "rocket" NASA won’t be pulled to educate everyone and Elton won’t sing

And I think it's gonna be a long, long, time
'Til matchstick loss brings me around to find  
Another bar.  I am at home.
Ah, no no no
Cause it’s rocket, man
Rocket mass
Waste no extra fuse
Just one alone

Mars ain't the kind of place
To heat your home
In fact, it's cold as hell
And there's nothing there to fuel it
If you did

All this science I
sorta understand
It warms my couch
All days a week
A rocket mass
For rocket heat

And I think it's gonna be a long, long, time
'Til empty hopper gets me up to find
It’s not the chore they think it needs to be
Ah, no no no
To feed the rocket mass
Rocket heat
Burnin' little twigs
Not heavy trees

And I think it's gonna be a long, long, time (comfy)
And I think it's gonna be a long, long, time (we’re warm)
And I think it's gonna be a long, long, time (soft rug)
And I think it's gonna be a long, long, time (hot choc)
And I think it's gonna be a long, long, time (good book)
And I think it's gonna be a long, long, time (dog on feet)
And I think it's gonna be a long, long, time (cat in crook)
And I think it's gonna be a long, long, time (loud snore)
Oh yes yes yes.
Rocket mass
Rocket, man



So who knows Elton - someone here must be 6 degrees.  C'mon, he’s already re-lyric-ed Candle in the Wind for a good cause…

Yowza!

Most Excellent.

I'll come back later, after my third cup or maybe my fourth cup of coffee, for another read!

Peace

I'm not really much of a Sir Elton fan.

I will however be willing to nominate you for "Dancing Queen".

Sorry, that is the best I could come up with.


Peace

Hi Polly = apples for your lyrics!

I couldn't follow any of those links - I think it blocked me because I'm in the UK (but it might be my IT not liking whatever cookies they try and send) so I may be wrong on this: I think though that they illustrate one reason why a rebrand may be a good thing. The rocket mass heaters that Paul is trying to promote typically don't have any metal in the fire area so as to get a really clean burn. Those rocket stoves aren't really the same thing as a rocket mass heater, although they are a step up from some other designs.

Deane Adams wrote:I'm not really much of a Sir Elton fan.

I will however be willing to nominate you for "Dancing Queen".

Sorry, that is the best I could come up with.


Peace

ahahaha - best compliment all week.  no, month even.  Heck - you made my year.  And you've not even see me dance (it's fairly dangerous) so 🙇‍♀️🙏

Nancy Reading wrote:Hi Polly = apples for your lyrics!

I couldn't follow any of those links - I think it blocked me because I'm in the UK (but it might be my IT not liking whatever cookies they try and send) so I may be wrong on this: I think though that they illustrate one reason why a rebrand may be a good thing. The rocket mass heaters that Paul is trying to promote typically don't have any metal in the fire area so as to get a really clean burn. Those rocket stoves aren't really the same thing as a rocket mass heater, although they are a step up from some other designs.

First - ooo.  Many thanks for the apples which I envision as cherries just 'cause preference and eyesight allow for it  🙏🙇‍♀️🍎

If you can get to the Home Depot site (a hardware store) I just googled rocket stove.  Haven't tried Amazon or other but I'll bet they have 'em.  I am trying to remember what might be the UK equivalent - Maxwells?  Partridges perhaps?   I'll attach a screenshot as it's the first time I saw Average Bear Man can purchase something of the concept off a 'shelf' and it floored me in a good way at the time.  Notwithstanding the sales feature of being 'protable', that it would fit in a square foot (impressive though), isn't built to retain resultant heat in any way plus what you said about the materials; I still feel this is the closest I've seen to a rocket stove in a commercial setting.  We are taking the win 🏆🥇 crowd goes wild.

But yes - you are right; definitely different 👍    Still - I wonder about whether sectioning each design off doesn't detract from a potential cumulative introduction what we'd like to see as a new norm - ie. if it were a red apple, green apple, honeycrisp, fuji! ... then there might be 23 people, 9 people, 1045 people and 7 - whereas the whole population of appleophiles is 1084 = technically more votes - see?  Not that I mean to disagree with you; it's more of my eagerness to see the world manipulated into better heating choices of any degree (her her).  If I could wave a wand and be Heating Hitler I wouldn't hesitate to make the right choice for everyone.  ugh,  Just grossed myself out there but you get it.

Anyway - thanks again for the fruit!  😍

Where I live, 100miles form England and 25 miles from France, we are extremely unlikely to get permission for a DIY stove of any description to use inside a house!
However the modern box stoves, that are readily available, all have to apply to European standards and meet stringent air pollution regulations.
They will have an insulated fire box, secondary air supply and fully adjustable air settings.
They dont produce smoke and look fantastic whether alight or standing still. I dont see many of my neighbours building a rocket stove when you can buy a ready manufactured, guaranteed , clean burning, attractive stove from the nearest stove store?
Of course they will not power a piped mass although they may work inside a bell.

Fox James wrote:Where I live, 100miles form England and 25 miles from France, we are extremely unlikely to get permission for a DIY stove of any description to use inside a house!
However the modern box stoves, that are readily available, all have to apply to European standards and meet stringent air pollution regulations.
They will have an insulated fire box, secondary air supply and fully adjustable air settings.
They dont produce smoke and look fantastic whether alight or standing still. I dont see many of my neighbours building a rocket stove when you can buy a ready manufactured, guaranteed , clean burning, attractive stove from the nearest stove store?
Of course they will not power a piped mass although they may work inside a bell.

You lucky duck!  I have always wanted to see Guernsey; what a one-in-a-million place to live.

I should like to see this box stove... I wonder if it's like a pellet stove in the US; though I can't say many of those look fantastic lol.  And bell?  What is that?

Polly, you know what they say…. “The grass is always greener on the other side”
Guernsey is regarded by many as an overpopulated tax haven, an expensive tiny island full of international banks, but yes I love my home and consider myself lucky to have been born is a safe, friendly community of 60k people.
A bell is an internal part of a modern RMH, basically a high mass enclosure  (normally brick) that houses the stove and retains the heat.
There are hundreds of design choices if you want to invest in a modern low emission stove.

Fox James wrote:Polly, you know what they say…. “The grass is always greener on the other side”
Guernsey is regarded by many as an overpopulated tax haven, an expensive tiny island full of international banks, but yes I love my home and consider myself lucky to have been born is a safe, friendly community of 60k people.
A bell is an internal part of a modern RMH, basically a high mass enclosure  (normally brick) that houses the stove and retains the heat.
There are hundreds of design choices if you want to invest in a modern low emission stove.

they are definitely nice looking, but now I'm 'aware' I sort of cringe seeing all that lovely heat energy being sent straight through the roof - up up and away.  lol.

thanks for the pics!