A Defense of Composting Toilets

Jonathan of The Tiny Shiny Home YouTube channel posted a video called Composting Toilets are a WASTE of TIME this week. I watched it and it made me a little angry.  The straw man arguments he made I found really infuriating. I'll put a link to the video at the end of the post and summarize the arguments in my rebuttal.

Background: Jonathan has a family of six. They started using a Nature's Head Composting Toilet in 2017 while living in an airstream trailer. In 2020 they moved the trailer onto raw land in Arizona where they continued to use the Nature Heads while building a hyperadobe home. Jonathan built a composting toilet system on the property composed of 5 or 6 50 gallons barrels with urine diversion. I think the idea was that once a barrel became full you covered it and moved on to the next barrel. He said in the video that that experiment was a failure.

Argument #1/Hot Take: Composting Toilets are huge time sink
In the video there's a montage of Jonathan cleaning the Nature's Head Toilet and emptying the urine collection. I think the lesson here is to size your system appropriately. With just one collection vessel using a Nature's Head for a family of six is going to be a lot of work. You will be emptying and cleaning the collector at least every other day. I know a family of five who uses a Joseph Jenkins humanure system with five gallons buckets. They change out buckets every other day but they have a lot of buckets so they do a bulk empty and clean once a month.



We use a similar system at our house. With two adults it takes 4-5 days to fill a five gallon bucket. When a bucket is full I put a lid on it, put it in our bucket holding area, wipe down the toilet seat and drop in a new bucket. I have eight buckets in circulation so I empty the buckets into our compost bin and clean them about once a month. The process takes about half an hour. I haven't cleaned a flush toilet in a while I think the time commitment is comparable.



The willow feeder system is even more time efficient because it uses larger collection vessels and skips the step where you empty the bucket into a compost bin.

Argument #2: Composting Toilets are a long term commitment
I agree with him on this point. When constructing a house it is a good idea to think long and hard about how to future proof it. In our case, I installed a toilet flange and plumbing necessary to install a flush toilet if necessary. We have a septic system sized for a flushing toilet (per county requirements).

Argument #3: Composting Toilets can be problematic with a not fully on board partner/spouse
If you can't tell I'm a bit of a waterless toilet aficionado. My wife is not as enthusiastic about the in and outs of human "waste" management but we have a compost toilet that's fairly low maintenance, looks nice, is comfortable and most importantly doesn't smell. I believe that if you create an elegant system you can win over just about anyone except for probably your county health and human services official. If you're married to your county health and human services official I guess I can give you a pass on this one.

Argument #4: Composting Toilets don't handle diarrhea or vomit well
I disagree. Paraphrasing Uncle Ben here, "With great amount of liquids comes proportional amounts of cover material,"  and Saint Peter, "Wood chips cover over a multitude of sins." And with projectile vomit you get the added bonus of no toilet water splash back.

Argument #5: Composting toilets are awkward with guests and often end up in disaster
We have a short set of instruction posted on our toilet seats and have never had a disaster much less any issue. Even if someone chooses to defy the sit down to pee rule that little bit of excess moisture has never been a problem.



Argument #6: Composting toilets are ideally suited for one to two individuals and/or infrequent use
I agree that the Nature's Head Composting Toilet is ideally suited for one or two people. However, you can size a waterless toilet system to fit a wide range of users and usage patterns. The Willow Feeder at basecamp in Wheaton Labs is a good example. It sees some periods of pretty heavy use. We sometimes have long term guests expanding our effective household to 3 or 4 and our five gallon bucket system is flexible enough to handle it.

That's the end of arguments against composting toilets. I think it is a pretty weak foundation to make sweeping generalizations from. What really bothers me is that loads of people will watch that video and not think about it very critically because it confirms their bias. Thanks for the rant space. Here is that video if you're so inclined:

We have 2 adults and 6 kids. 1 kid is 6 months old so there are 2 adults and 5 kids making deposits in the bucket system. We don't separate urine. We rotate 6 buckets and add them to one of 2 4x4x4 compost heaps. It takes 3-5 days to fill a bucket. It takes over a year to fill the compost heap enough to move to the next one. I do change over every 12 months so I can remember the month and not get confused.

Depositing the 5 or 6 buckets at a time gets us to ~140-150 degrees in the heap year round within a day or two of a 5 or 6 bucket deposit. The coolest the heap gets is ~110-120 degrees. The heaps are BSF havens. I let the heap rest without deposits for a year and shovel it all into the chicken coop/run deep bedding and turn it in. It is beautiful stuff after just a year but I always go to the chicken deep bedding for soil amending so it works for me to just move it into there. I can understand someone being hesitant to use it but once you see the 12 month end product, that may alleviate any issues. Also, if our pile did not get or stay hot, I would wait longer than I do and may not use it for everything I currently use it for.

I add in dead animals and animal parts as needed. I had a couple of deer front quarters (most of them anyway) is the last one I emptied along with other animal carcasses. The bones were nowhere to be found. If you can get your pile hot and keep it hot, I haven't found anything that will not "disappear" after a year.

It takes about 20 mins to empty, clean, put some cover material on the bottom of each bucket and place on a shelf. With the number of people we have, I need have the buckets ready to swap at a moments notice.

My experience has been very pleasant and like most permaculture/homestead things, they require more input/hands on time. I just can't imagine flushing all of that great material into a tank in the ground.

Thanks for the review and rebuttal of the video!

I my experience people rarely match the alternative systems to suit their needs.
If the video had been about why it was a problem for him, he may have got great feedback on changes to make it better.

Simple design right here,,just a couple people for now, but I set 2 barrels in 2 locations on the land..
I like the pizza pan that fits perfect in the ole to keep flies out!
I set them nice and low for a squat effect..
Design from Watershed Management group, ADEQ approved
Cochise County

Hi Lala
What is the glass component behind the seat?
thanks Doug

nice ,straight forward --- simple to build --great views as well--- no air fresher needed---glass jar --fly catcher on top of vent tube which exits out  90  through the wall --i think

Hi - if the glass jar is on a vent tube, what is the purpose of the two black elbows beside it?
thanks Doug

might be the two 90 bends are fresh air intakes

Yes that is a 3 part venting system, here is a video describing the parts, he starts talking about the venting at 2:40:

I have a masacreting toliet and i live mountains in hawaii, that has been good   are yours  the same   Van